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 PostPost subject: Installing XP on USB HD        Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:29 am 
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can someone tell me if xp can be installed on a usb 4 gb flash drive? if so, how? windows xp does not give me a path to install , i only have 1 megabyte (yes 1 megabyte not gb) free space. I want to install xp on a usb stick without making changes to my hard drive.

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:56 pm 
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if your BIOS supports to boot from usb, yes
then start your windows, format the stick to NTFS, and choose it as HD.

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:43 pm 
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This is not enough. Windows XP (by default) doesn't load the USB mass storage drivers during boot-up, preventing it to see the USB HD. You might be able to tell the text-based setup to install it on USB, but it'll fail on the first boot. You have to modify your XP installation source for it to work.

And please name your threads appropriately. This has been said multiple times now and shouldn't be that hard to remember.


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 PostPost subject: ok then can you do this then??        Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:20 am 
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what if you send a setup.exe file thats modified so i dont have to go through the I386 folder. It's huge


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 PostPost subject: Re: ok then can you do this then??        Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:47 am 
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what if you send a setup.exe file thats modified so i dont have to go through the I386 folder. It's huge


I'm not sure if i'm misinterpreting you, but you need the i386 folder, as it contains all the XP files.You can't install Windows without it...

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 7:17 pm 
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A modified setup.exe won't do anything.

Here's the tutorial to do it, it's not hard, but there are some steps to take:
http://www.ngine.de/index.jsp?pageid=4176


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:01 pm 
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Wouldn't it be simpler to make WinPE load the necessary USB drivers and replace its El-Torito boot loader with a standard one?


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:56 pm 
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yes, i work on XP PE, but its big and nobody helps me with the serial problem


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:03 am 
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you can install the 98 in usb dh. it is very easy


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:41 am 
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This was not the question. Please stay on topic.


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:46 pm 
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As far as I know this is impossible for the Windows Operating System, or is severly difficult. The boot loader needs to point to a destination that is already up and running. It wont load drivers for a USB device, its not designed / does not have the space to do this. the exception being Motherboards that support this, but yet again this may also be suicide when the OS first boots.

Even running the computer with 4gb with Windows XP is a very bad idea. XP files take around one gig, then whatever you have installed, plus a page file will not fit on there.


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:57 pm 
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As I said, it is possible, XP (the normal XP, not XPe or PE) can be booted off of (and installed to) an USB drive, but I think you still have to have an internal HD where the loader is (even if your system can boot from USB). I posted the URL a few posts above, there's a guide telling you how to modify an XP install source to be able to accomplish that. I haven't tested that.


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omg, i plugged in my ipod and went to the screen to choose which partition to install it to, guess what, it listed Apple Ipod, and im running xp mce right now without any tutorial, man this is some BS!


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:49 am 
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clt_42 wrote:
omg, i plugged in my ipod and went to the screen to choose which partition to install it to, guess what, it listed Apple Ipod, and im running xp mce right now without any tutorial, man this is some BS!

Show me a video where I can clearly see it's booting off of the iPod, then I'll believe it. And I bet the loader is still residing on an internal HD.


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alright, your on man, im gonna be the first 13 year old kid on my block with a ipod that has vista!


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Just so you know during textmode setup of Windows XP there are USB mass storage drivers loaded. This way my 8-in-1 removable media reader was visible on the select partition screen, plus some BIOSes have an option in the boot menu to startup from USB (when a device is plugged in)


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alright, your on man, im gonna be the first 13 year old kid on my block with a ipod that has vista!
I hope to god that your joking. You cannot possibly think that you could boot Vista standalone on your iPod.

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I've seen it done before, and myself have tried it myself. 14-year-old which I am. Don't forget to partition your iPod to NTFS. As Vista needs NTFS.

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Presumably using an iPod is not a lot more difficult than a USB hard drive or flash key?

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Presumably using an iPod is not a lot more difficult than a USB hard drive or flash key?


No its quite different. The iPod arranges the files so it knows what they are but you don't, eg renaming every song you put on it. They just had to be different and make it harder to recover the songs without software to do it. Although you can use it in disk mode, its quite pointless as you can't put songs on it, only other data.

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Yes, but when it comes to storing (non-media) data on it or booting an OS from it, it's just like every other USB/FireWire HD as soon as it's in disk mode. You can also repartition your iPod just as any other HD (although you might need to zero the MBR first, I've had to do this). I've done that multiple times to my iPods now.


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its kinda late but i'd like to note you can install vista on a flash drive.
just disconnect all the hard drives in the computer (when its off, naturally), then plug in the USB, preferably in a 2.0 slot, then boot up vista.
however vista is LARGE and writes to disk alot, so a you'll need an expensive drive... and since it writes a lot and USB isn't meet for such a massive amount of writting, the USB will start failing in about a month...
XP on a stick kills the stick in about 1.5 months too soo...
and iPods too die, unless your using a hard disk based iPod like the Video....


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