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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 4:09 am 
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there was never a mistake :P 8)

i think we should remove the grey background too to let it more look like minwin (or dos :P )

edit, doesnt really look like it, i whould really prefer it without any graphics

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edit2, if made a turn off screen too :p

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and why dont we use powershell as GUI?


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:39 pm 
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PowerShell has to be recoded as a native application.

Screenshots of New Bootscreen and Loader.
Uses XP SP3 (Build 3205) Kernel
http://rapidshare.com/files/64936660/Wi ... d.iso.html

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:10 am 
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Looks great.
I had a few problems running it, minor ones.

When it booted and you changed the directory and want to change it back with
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it doesnt change back.
And if i want to change to the x: directory i type in
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x:\, but it comes out x;


And an new idea, when the bootscreen is working why not a animation loader, like a scrollbar at the XP bootscreen.

But keep up the great work.

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:22 am 
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You use
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These characters are not supported: : ><?"{}!@#$%^&*()_+-


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:38 am 
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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:56 am 
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@Windows OCManage
Very interesting approach. :)

If I get it right, it is a "sort of" recovery console where you compiled your own Command processor as a Native app?

Do you happen to have any links where I can find some details about "Native" vs. "Normal" compiltion of a program?


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If anyone is interested in a similar (but slightly larger) environment supporting cmd.exe, do check the boot-land board:
http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=76
http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.p ... topic=3041
http://picoxp.boot-land.net/

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:59 pm 
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I used PicoXP as my base, then I removed the Win32 Subsystem

For Native Apps:
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http://tinykrnl.org


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:21 pm 
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Windows OCManage, congratulations!

Very good work - Jaclaz mentioned this project on boot land and it kept me wondering on what it could be used for.

I've also made a very small wb project a similar to picoXP to replicate your results - hope you find it good to use as base for testing and debug.

It is completely based on your work and you're naturally welcome to make further modifications and distribute it here if you wish --> http://winbuilder.net/download.php?view.6

Good luck! :)


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:32 am 
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Thanks, Nuno Brito! :)


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:07 am 
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some great work!

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:07 pm 
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Update: Windows NCLI RamBoot in a 2.88M Floppy Disk!

http://rapidshare.com/files/75226853/WinRAM.vfd.html

Uses LZX Cab Compression and Driver Stubbing!


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 PostPost subject: LGPL....        Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:33 pm 
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Hi,

My name is Alex Ionescu and I'm the developer responsible for the "smss.exe" that is being distributed in this image -- you have incorrectly stated that it is "Smss.exe" or some "Windows component" that is providing the native command line -- it isn't, in fact, this is the command line from the TinyKRNL project, which I worked on.

I have no problem with your usage of this code and I think it's very cool you did this (this was the whole point of the NCLI, after all).

However, I have a problem with the following:

- You're calling this "Windows NCLI" and attributing copyright to Microsoft. You're comitting copyright theft and fraud: the original source code has this text inside of it:
RtlCliDisplayString("TinyKRNL OS [Version %d.%d.%d]\n",
Peb->OSMajorVersion,
Peb->OSMinorVersion,
Peb->OSBuildNumber);
RtlCliDisplayString("(C) Copyright 2006 TinyKRNL Project\n\n");
You're misattributing copyright to Microsoft, and also de-frauding TinyKRNL of its copyright.

- Secondly, you're violating the LGPL. At the top of every file in the NCLI source code, you'll find:
/*++

Copyright (c) Alex Ionescu. All rights reserved.

THIS CODE AND INFORMATION IS PROVIDED UNDER THE LESSER GNU PUBLIC LICENSE.
PLEASE READ THE FILE "COPYING" IN THE TOP LEVEL DIRECTORY.

Module Name:

main.c

Abstract:

The Native Command Line Interface (NCLI) is the command shell for the
TinyKRNL OS.

If you're unaware of the LPGL, you can read the COPYING file that came with the source code. In it, you'll see that when distributing copies of LPGLed software, you need to provide patches for your modifications (such as displaying the help, and any other changes you may have made).

I hope you'll be able to resolve this matter quickly, by reverting the copyright to their appropriate owners, and by providing a patch of your other changes. I understand this was probably a simple mistake made in the heat of your excitement, but it's time to make things right.

You can reach me at alex at solsem dot com if you need more information.

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Best regards,
Alex Ionescu


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:09 am 
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Did someone just get pwned for hacking someone elses work & presenting it as thier own. :(


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:19 am 
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Alex,

Here is your recompiled version:
http://rapidshare.com/files/76501259/native.exe.html

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Alex, Can I have your latest source, I have the one from Nov 6 2006


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 5:24 pm 
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Hey,

Thanks a lot for providing that. Please make sure to update your image as well with the original binary and real copyright.

You're of course free to modify it and add something like "Windows OCManage Special Edition" or whatever. Any improvements/changes you'll make will be your own and you deserve credit for them!

As for the latest source code, I will setup an SVN server for it shortly -- TinyKRNL may be dead, but I still think the NCLI was a valuable tool, and I have several ideas for improving it as well. Providing a source code repository for it will allow more than one person to work on it -- do you like that idea?

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Alex Ionescu


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 5:29 pm 
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aionescu wrote:
As for the latest source code, I will setup an SVN server for it shortly -- TinyKRNL may be dead, but I still think the NCLI was a valuable tool, and I have several ideas for improving it as well. Providing a source code repository for it will allow more than one person to work on it -- do you like that idea?

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I have some troubles The June 2007 Source. It keeps making FastFat and I8042Prt as a Vista Driver. The November 2006 Source didn't give me this problem.

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As a side note, I am trying to get the image onto a 1.44M Diskette.

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The New Image:
http://rapidshare.com/files/76833308/WinRAM.vfd.html


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:17 pm 
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Hi Alex!

Been reading/following some of your work for a few years now.

If you're interested in keeping some of the tinykrnl spirit alive then these would surely be good news for everyone interested on this sort of project.

Your project had already been discussed some months ago here:
http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.p ... topic=2681

A member called "SimulatedReality" is also very interested in helping with the development, look here --> http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.p ... st&p=21752

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 6:18 pm 
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Alex, how far has NTDLL gone in development?


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:42 pm 
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Windows OCManage wrote:
The GUI Subsystem: Built from NT 5.1.2600 SP3 v3205

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Size: 56MB, includes stubbed networking.
Uploading to the SP FTP.


SP FTP?

Also, does anyone know of a work-around to load 2.88MB VFDs in Virtual PC? I didn't feel like fishing around the resources looking for a possible patch. Thus, the best I could come up with was using 'Virtual Floppy Drive' to create a RAM drive, format it from within there (loading the image directly always seems to revert it back to 1.44MB), and then using WinImage to format/write the virtual disk.


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:46 pm 
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R4N0M3N wrote:
Windows OCManage wrote:
The GUI Subsystem: Built from NT 5.1.2600 SP3 v3205

...

Size: 56MB, includes stubbed networking.
Uploading to the SP FTP.


SP FTP?

Also, does anyone know of a work-around to load 2.88MB VFDs in Virtual PC? I didn't feel like fishing around the resources looking for a possible patch. Thus, the best I could come up with was using 'Virtual Floppy Drive' to create a RAM drive, format it from within there (loading the image directly always seems to revert it back to 1.44MB), and then using WinImage to format/write the virtual disk.


1. To get access to FTP, please post 10 contributing posts.

2. Please use QEmu or VmWare Workstation.


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 PostPost subject: It can run basic applications        Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 7:35 pm 
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The GUI Subsystem: Built from NT 5.1.2600 SP3 v3205

It can run basic applications such as Notepad, Calculator and Wordpad.
It can also run the explorer shell.

ModelRAM.exe is needed for System Profile Creation.

Current Shell: CMD.EXE

System Requirements:
300Mhz Processor
128 MB RAM if you are running Explorer
64 MB RAM if you are running the console shell.
SVGA Video Card
PS2 Mouse

Size: 56MB, includes stubbed networking.
Uploading to the SP FTP.



Hello

How can I start the applications?

I have copied in the image, however no start.

Thanks


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:00 pm 
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Type in Explorer at the command prompt.


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:33 pm 
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I have written notepad.exe and then comes

notepad.exe is recognised as an internal command.

Do they maybe have ready image where everything is integrated? :oops:


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 1:01 am 
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What is the size of the image?


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 1:32 am 
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6,71 MB


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