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 PostPost subject: Why people hate antivirus software?        Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 11:54 pm 
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They are full of bloat with ‘features’ no one really needs or  wants, they chew up massive amounts of resources, cause horrible system slowness, are incredibly in-compatible breaking apps, even caused BSD’s, etc.

Source: http://blog.ardcorp.tv/post/Why-people- ... tware.aspx


I actually loved the Security Essentials its great better than OneCare and almost as good as NOD32 :D

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 PostPost subject: Re: Why people hate antivirus software?        Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:01 am 
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That's exactly the antivirus definition :P. I am really curious to see the Morro's success in tests...


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 PostPost subject: Re: Why people hate antivirus software?        Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:07 am 
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lol i have to say i liked OneCare and i think that OneCare backup was go0d

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Honestly, I HATE all anti-viruses, they suck down memory and system resources.


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I just do a scan before I back up something other than that I never allow antivrus software on my computer.


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you would have to be INSANE not have antivirus app if your computer has a internet connection and you run a windows oprating system !

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you would have to be INSANE not have antivirus app if your computer has a internet connection and you run a windows oprating system !


Not really, I usually don't run anti-virus on my personal computer. It just depends on what you use your computer for.


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I used to not run anything, but at some point I switched to Nod32, and I'm now running Avira.


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I made a portable version of Nod32, and just use that to scan once in a while.

The computer that i am writting for now, have not had a virus/spyware/malware in 3-4 years, so saying that its insane to have a Windows computer without Anti-virus is not realy true. - it all comes down to how you use your computer.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Why people hate antivirus software?        Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 9:15 am 
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I used to have a AV on my system, until my pc was so slow that it was unworkable so i removed it and the pc was like 70% faster. But i still wanted a program that protects me from malware sites, so i created a app that does just that with the help of a massive hostfile and with a auto-update function.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Why people hate antivirus software?        Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 6:30 pm 
most of antiviruses are annoying with their pop ups
but Mcafee has less pop ups than others


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leonbollerup wrote:
It all comes down to how you use your computer.


Yes. If you access pornography sites, installing "plug-ins" to watch movies that haven't come out yet, and click on those ads on MySpace, then you pretty much are asking for a virus.


Obviously, I use a Mac and I don't have any Anti-Virus software installed. However, I still use Windows XP/2000 for a number of years now...and never had a virus. If anything, I would get Avast or use Ad-Aware for things here and there, but I just can't support buying yearly subscriptions of anti-virus protection. My family computer HAS to have it though. Too risky. lol.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Why people hate antivirus software?        Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 7:34 pm 
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I used to have a AV on my system, until my pc was so slow that it was unworkable so i removed it and the pc was like 70% faster. But i still wanted a program that protects me from malware sites, so i created a app that does just that with the help of a massive hostfile and with a auto-update function.


I've seen software like that and thought it was a great idea. I ended up settling on the Immunize feature of Spybot because it actually blocks sites not only from the hostfile but from within IE and FF.

If they sold that part of the application on it's own and cheaply I would tell everyone to buy it.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Why people hate antivirus software?        Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:10 am 
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QuiescentWonder wrote:
Whistler_fan wrote:
I used to have a AV on my system, until my pc was so slow that it was unworkable so i removed it and the pc was like 70% faster. But i still wanted a program that protects me from malware sites, so i created a app that does just that with the help of a massive hostfile and with a auto-update function.


I've seen software like that and thought it was a great idea. I ended up settling on the Immunize feature of Spybot because it actually blocks sites not only from the hostfile but from within IE and FF.

If they sold that part of the application on it's own and cheaply I would tell everyone to buy it.

The great thing about a hostfile is that it doesnt hog memory and protects the whole systen in place of only the browser (so if a virus want to connect to a site thats in the list, it is blocked). The only problem is that you have to manualy update it, but my program does this automaticly for users(for free). On my side i make the updates from lists of malware sites and release them to the public.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Why people hate antivirus software?        Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:12 pm 
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I just do a scan before I back up something other than that I never allow antivrus software on my computer.


Some Antivruses like ESET NODE delete important files not related to viruses :( so i dont like the scan from some antivurses
You should keep care


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zamadatix wrote:
I just do a scan before I back up something other than that I never allow antivrus software on my computer.


Some Antivruses like ESET NODE delete important files not related to viruses :( so i dont like the scan from some antivurses
You should keep care


Never heard of that and you should ALWAYS have it set to show you what it finds before it takes ANY action.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Why people hate antivirus software?        Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:09 pm 
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exactly. I still don't run an OS other than occasionally using one of those online scanners to scan a file I'm unsure about running and I haven't had to reinstall due to a virus in ages.

If you don't know where it came from or if it's some warez thing that sounds too good to be true don't run it.

Basically if someone sends you hotpics.jpg.vbs or Windows7RTM_full_final.iso.exe don't run it :wink:


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 PostPost subject: Re: Why people hate antivirus software?        Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:27 pm 
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Why is this in news anyway? Its a blog post..

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 PostPost subject: Re: Why people hate antivirus software?        Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:05 am 
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Why is this in news anyway? Its a blog post..


Well for what I have seen most news are usually blog posts…
Also I think this one is funny

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I hate most anti-virus programs because as others have said they slow down your computer and have a lot of features most people don't want or even need. However since I'm online a lot and I download a ton of stuff I like having one. My preference is the free version that AVG has out. It does what it should and it doesn't hog a lot of resources. The newer Norton programs such as Norton 360 are horrible (they wouldn't even let me delete the virus after it found it it would just quarantine it, which i think is really stupid. Anyway I think its good to have one but they are very annoying programs.

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Anti-Virus software is generally for people with a small knowledge about computers. Its common sense whats a virus and whats not also what gives out spy ware etc. Anti-Virus in my opinion is a system bloater its like a paperweight.


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I'm a recently switched PC-to-Mac user, but I run Windows XP on a Boot Camp partition. I've tried lots of antivirus software and mainly used Norton Internet Security 2009, but I flat out switched to Microsoft Security Essentials (public beta).

It's fast, lightweight, doesn't hog memory, and I forget it's there.


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SaT wrote:
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Why is this in news anyway? Its a blog post..


Well for what I have seen most news are usually blog posts…
Also I think this one is funny



Dude they're your own blog posts, not news :|


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I've used Symantec Corporate Antivirus for about 4 years after I got a copy through legal means, it's a highly stable, quiet auto-updating AV that I've found doesn't impact computer performance at all, even on very slow old computers.

The best part is it doesn't have the crappy Norton interface, instead it uses a standard windows forms interface, and it never bothers you unless it's already found something and has acted on it.

I haven't tried the new Microsoft AV, but when Windows 7 is released I'll definitely install it.

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you would have to be INSANE not have antivirus app if your computer has a internet connection and you run a windows oprating system !



There are ways to lockdown any professional NT Desktop or Server system so that malware has literally no chance to find its way onto a system.
We speak of Windows 2000 and newer.
Including surfing with IE, when IE is in lockdown mode with no activex and domain-hopping, downloads and bhos allowed.

The Servers are even better, cause they have the Security-Wizard which lets you close eacha nd every port,service and background-process along with good descriptions what each process is needed for. Closing ports is a main pillar for security, enforcing policies and software rules per user is the second.

A better way than Windows-Firewall is IPSEC. With that you can design your personal firewall manual in the strictest mode you can think of.

xp needs special attention ( because it has too much holes ) but it's possible.
From all modern NTs Vista's / 2008 virtualized registry plus uac is even better for total security without antivirus services, those features are simply not present in xp and 2003

that security scenario of course depends on not using administrative accounts for online activity but *user* only.

While MS morro doesn't slow the realtime system it will enlarge your pagefile, because it swaps by design. That is especially true for low-mem systems ( 256 MB is the min requirements per MS). It also makes Windows Desktop loading slower on such specs.

a *relative* speedy av solution is avast home as long as you dont have all the modules loaded, only standard.

But Windows fresh installed is noticeable faster than when you start installing any (!) realtime scanner.


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