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 PostPost subject: No Internet Explorer in Windows 7 version for Europe        Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 1:45 pm 
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Microsoft is planning on shipping a version of Windows 7 to Europe that will not include Internet Explorer.




According to News.com, Microsoft’s newest proposal is to offer a version of Windows 7 which strips out Internet Explorer (IE) 8. Not hides it — like is currently possible via a “remove features” capability. The Softies are proposing to sell a separate version, designated Windows 7 E which doesn’t include a browser in it at all.

Sources close to Microsoft confirmed that Microsoft has been notifying PC
makers of its intention to field Windows 7 E in the European Union as a way to comply with antitrust regulations there.

Microsoft added the “Remove IE” switch to Windows 7 a few months ago. IE was just one of a number of “removable” features in the Release Candidate build of Windows 7, which Microsoft made available to testers in late April. The full list of user-removable Windows 7 features (in addition to ones that already may be “deselected” in Vista) include:
* Windows Media Player
* Windows Media Center
* Windows DVD Maker
* Internet Explorer 8
* Windows Search
* Handwriting Recognition (through the Tablet PC Components option)
* Windows Gadget Platform
* Fax and Scan
* XPS Viewer and Services (including the Virtual Print Driver)


Source: http://keznews.com/5798_No_Internet_Exp ... for_Europe

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 PostPost subject: Re: No Internet Explorer in Windows 7 version for Europe        Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:55 pm 
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You can download Firefox if you telnet to their servers, so it is fine. Either that, or put the installation file for FF on a memory stick, and away you go!

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 PostPost subject: Re: No Internet Explorer in Windows 7 version for Europe        Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:14 pm 
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Of course. We must not forget that the browsers are merely gui's to the internet. Befroe they became popular, we had to use prompts in Dos in order to achieve anything on the web. As the web was very small, this was not a big deal. It is unlikely that new users would be familiar with those old fashoined ways and, if they were new to computers, would probably not have an inkling as to how to start but, fwiw, you could download a browser, without a browser installed.

Take an example of obtaining the latest Firfox:

Here's how to install Firefox without using a browser:
To start FTP, click on the Start menu, then "Run..." and enter:
ftp (or go straight to the Command prompt, run as Admistartor, and type ftp)
Then click "OK."
When the ftp prompt appears, type:
open releases.mozilla.org
Then press Enter.
You will be connected to the Mozilla Firefox FTP download site.
Note that you will need to press Enter after every command that follows.
When prompted for your username enter: anonymous As your password enter: your email address
When the ftp prompt reappears enter these commands, one at a time, pressing enter after each one and waiting for a response from the server:
cd pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases
cd latest-2.0
cd win32


Now, to see a list of languages and countries that Firefox is available for, type:
ls
If you live in the United States or you prefer your interface in U.S. English, your next command is:
cd en-US
If you prefer another language, cd to that directory instead.
Next, to find out the name of the current version of the Firefox installer, use one more "ls" command:
ls
This last "ls" command will show you the exact name of the installer for the current version of Firefox 2.0, among other files. You are looking for the filename that ends with .exe. AS OF THIS WRITING, it is:
Firefox Setup 2.0.0.20.exe
But you need to use the ls command to see what the current version is instead of relying on this.
Next, type the command:
binary
To make sure the file is moved as a program and not as a text file, which would ruin it.
Now we need to get it to go to your desktop.'
Fortunately, the desktop "lives" right inside your home folder, so we can use the lcd (Local Change Directory) command to go there:
lcd Desktop
Type:
get "Firefox Setup 2.0.0.20.exe" (If that is the setup program name you found with the ls command. )
(The quotation marks are important!)
The file will take a while to download. On a dialup modem a little longer. When and if the ftp prompt comes back without an error message, type:
quit
You should now find the install on your desktop.


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 PostPost subject: Re: No Internet Explorer in Windows 7 version for Europe        Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:16 pm 
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:S, Why is that post needed..? Most of the people here know how to use ftp. :D

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 PostPost subject: Re: No Internet Explorer in Windows 7 version for Europe        Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:50 pm 
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WildEye001 wrote:
:S, Why is that post needed..? Most of the people here know how to use ftp. :D


Actually, it's a very imformative post. While most users of this forum could use FTP, I can't say that I can remember FTP from the command line off memory. Guides like this will be useful to refer back to should I ever have the misfortune of using Windows 7 E installs.

I suspect you didn't even read his post properly. I suggest that you do before commenting, and that you also remember that this forum is not full of people who spend their time doing everything from a command line, and as such, may not know the more uncommon tasks, such as FTP.

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 PostPost subject: Re: No Internet Explorer in Windows 7 version for Europe        Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:08 pm 
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I see, your right though, it is informative, but DOS FTP probably wouldnt be too god with downloading files like: Firefox Setup 2.0.0.20.exe. since CMD doesnt support LFN, even in 2009. O_O :mrgreen:

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 PostPost subject: Re: No Internet Explorer in Windows 7 version for Europe        Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:13 pm 
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WildEye001 wrote:
I see, your right though, it is informative, but DOS FTP probably wouldnt be too god with downloading files like: Firefox Setup 2.0.0.20.exe. since CMD doesnt support LFN, even in 2009. O_O :mrgreen:


LFN is supported from Windows 95 OSR 2 (or 2.5) and above 8-) .

And for the spaces you use " and ", otherwise it's see the file only as Firefox and the other sections are invalid arguments.

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 PostPost subject: Re: No Internet Explorer in Windows 7 version for Europe        Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:22 pm 
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WildEye001 wrote:
:S, Why is that post needed..? Most of the people here know how to use ftp. :D



Maybe. But if you browse, "most" people seem to think there is no way to get on to the internet without a browser to start with.

Even on this site. There are a couple posts on this thread asking that question.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8229


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 PostPost subject: Re: No Internet Explorer in Windows 7 version for Europe        Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:25 pm 
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Only thing is if the average person was comfortable using the command line they would've adopted Linux faster but they haven't so it seems to average Joe either has the installer handy or puts IE on.


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 PostPost subject: Re: No Internet Explorer in Windows 7 version for Europe        Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:50 pm 
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WildEye001 wrote:
I see, your right though, it is informative, but DOS FTP probably wouldnt be too god with downloading files like: Firefox Setup 2.0.0.20.exe. since CMD doesnt support LFN, even in 2009. O_O :mrgreen:

Attually CMD does support LFN. Just open up a directory with long file names and hit dir. That will give them to you. If you want to see short file names, use the /x switch and it will give you both long and short. You have to understand that DOS and Command Prompt are completely different things, even though they look similar.

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 PostPost subject: Re: No Internet Explorer in Windows 7 version for Europe        Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 11:44 pm 
DAVEHC THANKS YOUR POST IS VERY USEFUL


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