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Weird and funny... Couldn't they put all the updates included in SP1 to RTM? And they say they care of 7, and don't rush with its release, because it's just almost done. It may even happen, that 7 with SP1 will leak before RTM, LOL :)

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I'm suspicious of this - the purpose of a Service Pack release is to fix bugs, why would they fix bugs in the SP branch instead of the RTM branch?


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Very unlikely. What the purpose of fixing an unfinished OS with the SP method? They could just fix it in a next build.


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I'm suspicious of this - the purpose of a Service Pack release is to fix bugs, why would they fix bugs in the SP branch instead of the RTM branch?


xp SP1 added native usb support RTM never had it and improved stabilaty
xp sp2 improved securaty and added stabilaty and added singed usb drivers
xp sp3 added n cd key install black hole router detection and stabilaty for end of life

vista sp1 imprved stabilaty and memory usage and redused the number of promts when createing a new folder
vista sp2 so far just stabilaty..

7 SP1 will be fetures that arnt able to make it to RTM

service packs arnt about fixing bugs thay are abut funchanalaty
just most ppl focuse on bugs/securaty updates bc thay includea ll the hotfixes up untill the SP went gold...

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It's truth. I suppose more information is coming.

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angelwolf71885 wrote:
Derf wrote:
I'm suspicious of this - the purpose of a Service Pack release is to fix bugs, why would they fix bugs in the SP branch instead of the RTM branch?


xp SP1 added native usb support RTM never had it and improved stabilaty
xp sp2 improved securaty and added stabilaty and added singed usb drivers
xp sp3 added n cd key install black hole router detection and stabilaty for end of life

vista sp1 imprved stabilaty and memory usage and redused the number of promts when createing a new folder
vista sp2 so far just stabilaty..

7 SP1 will be fetures that arnt able to make it to RTM

service packs arnt about fixing bugs thay are abut funchanalaty
just most ppl focuse on bugs/securaty updates bc thay includea ll the hotfixes up untill the SP went gold...

1. Windows has had native USB support since Windows 98 and OEM versions had it in 95 OSR2.
2. the USB drivers have always been signed.
3. Learn to spell.

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Bender wrote:
angelwolf71885 wrote:

xp SP1 added native usb support RTM never had it and improved stabilaty
xp sp2 improved securaty and added stabilaty and added singed usb drivers
xp sp3 added n cd key install black hole router detection and stabilaty for end of life

vista sp1 imprved stabilaty and memory usage and redused the number of promts when createing a new folder
vista sp2 so far just stabilaty..

7 SP1 will be fetures that arnt able to make it to RTM

service packs arnt about fixing bugs thay are abut funchanalaty
just most ppl focuse on bugs/securaty updates bc thay includea ll the hotfixes up untill the SP went gold...

1. Windows has had native USB support since Windows 98 and OEM versions had it in 95 OSR2.
2. the USB drivers have always been signed.
3. Learn to spell.



umm 95 and 98 recived USB MASS STORAGE support in 1999 via a patch
it was just usb mass storage all the way trought xp sp1

u still needed drivers for printers and webcams

xp sp1 added more universial support for ALL usb devices
but a promp came up saying the driver wasent signed do you want to prossede

also if u have an issue with my spelling the contact an admin

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angelwolf71885 wrote:
Bender wrote:
angelwolf71885 wrote:

xp SP1 added native usb support RTM never had it and improved stabilaty
xp sp2 improved securaty and added stabilaty and added singed usb drivers
xp sp3 added n cd key install black hole router detection and stabilaty for end of life

vista sp1 imprved stabilaty and memory usage and redused the number of promts when createing a new folder
vista sp2 so far just stabilaty..

7 SP1 will be fetures that arnt able to make it to RTM

service packs arnt about fixing bugs thay are abut funchanalaty
just most ppl focuse on bugs/securaty updates bc thay includea ll the hotfixes up untill the SP went gold...

1. Windows has had native USB support since Windows 98 and OEM versions had it in 95 OSR2.
2. the USB drivers have always been signed.
3. Learn to spell.



umm 95 and 98 recived USB MASS STORAGE support in 1999 via a patch
it was just usb mass storage all the way trought xp sp1

u still needed drivers for printers and webcams

xp sp1 added more universial support for ALL usb devices
but a promp came up saying the driver wasent signed do you want to prossede

also if u have an issue with my spelling the contact an admin
It wasn't just mass storage, otherwise USB mouses, keyboards, controllers, etc. wouldn't work.
And correct spelling is a rule, not that it really bugs me that much, aZ l0ng az u d0nt tipe liek DIS, then it doesn't bug me. :)


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angelwolf71885 wrote:
Bender wrote:
angelwolf71885 wrote:

xp SP1 added native usb support RTM never had it and improved stabilaty
xp sp2 improved securaty and added stabilaty and added singed usb drivers
xp sp3 added n cd key install black hole router detection and stabilaty for end of life

vista sp1 imprved stabilaty and memory usage and redused the number of promts when createing a new folder
vista sp2 so far just stabilaty..

7 SP1 will be fetures that arnt able to make it to RTM

service packs arnt about fixing bugs thay are abut funchanalaty
just most ppl focuse on bugs/securaty updates bc thay includea ll the hotfixes up untill the SP went gold...

1. Windows has had native USB support since Windows 98 and OEM versions had it in 95 OSR2.
2. the USB drivers have always been signed.
3. Learn to spell.



umm 95 and 98 recived USB MASS STORAGE support in 1999 via a patch
it was just usb mass storage all the way trought xp sp1

u still needed drivers for printers and webcams

xp sp1 added more universial support for ALL usb devices
but a promp came up saying the driver wasent signed do you want to prossede

also if u have an issue with my spelling the contact an admin

You never said anything about mass storage drivers. XP also doesn't have USB drivers for everything, just HID devices and drives.
Windows 98 had native USB HID drivers, and everything after that did too.

XP introduced USB2 drivers, not usb drivers.

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Derf wrote:
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umm 95 and 98 recived USB MASS STORAGE support in 1999 via a patch
it was just usb mass storage all the way trought xp sp1

u still needed drivers for printers and webcams

xp sp1 added more universial support for ALL usb devices
but a promp came up saying the driver wasent signed do you want to prossede

also if u have an issue with my spelling the contact an admin
It wasn't just mass storage, otherwise USB mouses, keyboards, controllers, etc. wouldn't work.
And correct spelling is a rule, not that it really bugs me that much, aZ l0ng az u d0nt tipe liek DIS, then it doesn't bug me. :)



that is sorta true but at the time of 98 i had a usb keyboard that required
a driver CD to git it to work o.o

corce usb was in its infancy at the time being only 1.1 at the time
and ppl were still useing ps2 mice and key bords at the time

but thats splitting hairs.. my point was that features are the real purpose and focus on service packs not bug fixes and hot fixes..

also i have a learning dissabilty and have already spoken to the admins about it

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maybe a release with windows server 2008 R2?


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I HAVE WIN7 BUILD 7077 SP1!!
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No, I don't but, one can easily fake an SP by adding these registry keys:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Windows]
"ErrorMode"=dword:00000000
"Directory"=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,00,\
  74,00,25,00,00,00
"NoInteractiveServices"=dword:00000000
"SystemDirectory"=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,\
  6f,00,74,00,25,00,5c,00,73,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,00,\
  00
"ShellErrorMode"=dword:00000001
"CSDVersion"=dword:00000100
"CSDReleaseType"=dword:00000001
"CSDBuildNumber"=dword:00004000
"ComponentizedBuild"=dword:00000001
"ShutdownTime"=hex:46,cf,dd,7d,d5,df,c9,01


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet002\Control\Windows]
"ErrorMode"=dword:00000000
"Directory"=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,00,\
  74,00,25,00,00,00
"NoInteractiveServices"=dword:00000000
"SystemDirectory"=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,\
  6f,00,74,00,25,00,5c,00,73,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,00,\
  00
"ShellErrorMode"=dword:00000001
"CSDVersion"=dword:00000100
"CSDReleaseType"=dword:00000001
"CSDBuildNumber"=dword:00004000
"ComponentizedBuild"=dword:00000001
"ShutdownTime"=hex:46,cf,dd,7d,d5,df,c9,01


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Windows]
"ErrorMode"=dword:00000000
"Directory"=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,00,\
  74,00,25,00,00,00
"NoInteractiveServices"=dword:00000000
"SystemDirectory"=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,\
  6f,00,74,00,25,00,5c,00,73,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,00,\
  00
"ShellErrorMode"=dword:00000001
"CSDVersion"=dword:00000100
"CSDReleaseType"=dword:00000001
"CSDBuildNumber"=dword:00004000
"ComponentizedBuild"=dword:00000001
"ShutdownTime"=hex:46,cf,dd,7d,d5,df,c9,01


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No, I don't but, one can easily fake an SP by adding these registry keys:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Windows]
"ErrorMode"=dword:00000000
"Directory"=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,00,\
  74,00,25,00,00,00
"NoInteractiveServices"=dword:00000000
"SystemDirectory"=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,\
  6f,00,74,00,25,00,5c,00,73,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,00,\
  00
"ShellErrorMode"=dword:00000001
"CSDVersion"=dword:00000100
"CSDReleaseType"=dword:00000001
"CSDBuildNumber"=dword:00004000
"ComponentizedBuild"=dword:00000001
"ShutdownTime"=hex:46,cf,dd,7d,d5,df,c9,01


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet002\Control\Windows]
"ErrorMode"=dword:00000000
"Directory"=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,00,\
  74,00,25,00,00,00
"NoInteractiveServices"=dword:00000000
"SystemDirectory"=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,\
  6f,00,74,00,25,00,5c,00,73,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,00,\
  00
"ShellErrorMode"=dword:00000001
"CSDVersion"=dword:00000100
"CSDReleaseType"=dword:00000001
"CSDBuildNumber"=dword:00004000
"ComponentizedBuild"=dword:00000001
"ShutdownTime"=hex:46,cf,dd,7d,d5,df,c9,01


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Windows]
"ErrorMode"=dword:00000000
"Directory"=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,00,\
  74,00,25,00,00,00
"NoInteractiveServices"=dword:00000000
"SystemDirectory"=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,\
  6f,00,74,00,25,00,5c,00,73,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,00,\
  00
"ShellErrorMode"=dword:00000001
"CSDVersion"=dword:00000100
"CSDReleaseType"=dword:00000001
"CSDBuildNumber"=dword:00004000
"ComponentizedBuild"=dword:00000001
"ShutdownTime"=hex:46,cf,dd,7d,d5,df,c9,01



problome with that is its from a TRUSTED SOURCE

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problome with that is its from a TRUSTED SOURCE


Yes, but why is the Tag censored? And also the fact that one can fake the OS so easily?


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Apart from whether you trust Wzor or not, the fact that the build tag is different to the main build and includes SP1 on it is further reassurance, though that too could be quite easily faked.


Wzor censor tags of unleaked builds because people kept using those tags to label their own fakes, so they decided it'd be better if the fakers didn't get hold of the tags.

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Apart from whether you trust Wzor or not, the fact that the build tag is different to the main build and includes SP1 on it is further reassurance, though that too could be quite easily faked.


Wzor censor tags of unleaked builds because people kept using those tags to label their own fakes, so they decided it'd be better if the fakers didn't get hold of the tags.


Yep, they said, they would confirm of deny if given leak is real or not.


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Because at this stage of development revealing branch and exact build number can easily harm their sources. They wrote that once they are convinced it's secure they will reveal more information (may be very soon).

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Windows XP SP1 add the support for USB 2.0. USB 1.1 and below was supported earlier.

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