Post subject: Re: Windows XP Mode for 7... Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:54 pm
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DjRob wrote:
Namronia wrote:
Damn great! The Aero really works with this new Mode, im running 7057 as main OS, and 7100 in Virtual PC, and look...
Great!
It can use aero because it now uses the real graphics card AFIAK.
You sure? I assumed it was like the RDP Aero system supposedly present in 7 (I say supposedly, because I don't have two 7 systems to try it with) where the host renders 7's glass thanks to libraries on both sides. Not sure it'll work with anything but 7's DWM, but would like to be proven wrong..
Post subject: Re: Windows XP Mode for 7... Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:36 pm
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hounsell wrote:
You sure? I assumed it was like the RDP Aero system supposedly present in 7 (I say supposedly, because I don't have two 7 systems to try it with) where the host renders 7's glass thanks to libraries on both sides. Not sure it'll work with anything but 7's DWM, but would like to be proven wrong..
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The Windows 7 Aero does work over RDP. I had to take a picture of it so the connection bar would show up.
Post subject: Re: Windows XP Mode for 7... Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:12 pm
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hounsell wrote:
DjRob wrote:
Namronia wrote:
Damn great! The Aero really works with this new Mode, im running 7057 as main OS, and 7100 in Virtual PC, and look...
Great!
It can use aero because it now uses the real graphics card AFIAK.
You sure? I assumed it was like the RDP Aero system supposedly present in 7 (I say supposedly, because I don't have two 7 systems to try it with) where the host renders 7's glass thanks to libraries on both sides. Not sure it'll work with anything but 7's DWM, but would like to be proven wrong..
Actually RDP works with Aero on Vista i use it alot however it has some bugs on Windows 7 sometimes it dosnt load or it stops loading thw Aero theme.
Post subject: Re: Windows XP Mode for 7... Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 4:16 am
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DjRob wrote:
pkubaj wrote:
It sucks, since it requires hardware virtualization. It's designed for office computers, not home ones. Just tell me, how many office computers has CPU with hardware virtualization?
It depends, if the computer is a new one (with an Intel Core 2 processor or new AMD processors), it has. But it is disabled in the BIOS, you have to enable it first.
This stinks, I have Intel Core 2 Duo T5270 which doesn't have Intel VT. When I asked my dad for a Core 2 Duo laptop, I didn't mean for him to buy the cheapest Core 2 Duo laptop he can find.
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Post subject: Re: Windows XP Mode for 7... Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 4:21 am
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Day2Die wrote:
DjRob wrote:
pkubaj wrote:
It sucks, since it requires hardware virtualization. It's designed for office computers, not home ones. Just tell me, how many office computers has CPU with hardware virtualization?
It depends, if the computer is a new one (with an Intel Core 2 processor or new AMD processors), it has. But it is disabled in the BIOS, you have to enable it first.
This stinks, I have Intel Core 2 Duo T5270 which doesn't have Intel VT. When I asked my dad for a Core 2 Duo laptop, I didn't mean for him to buy the cheapest Core 2 Duo laptop he can find.
u can upgrade the prosser u know..its not sodderd to the MB..
Post subject: Re: Windows XP Mode for 7... Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 4:37 am
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angelwolf71885 wrote:
Day2Die wrote:
DjRob wrote:
pkubaj wrote:
It sucks, since it requires hardware virtualization. It's designed for office computers, not home ones. Just tell me, how many office computers has CPU with hardware virtualization?
It depends, if the computer is a new one (with an Intel Core 2 processor or new AMD processors), it has. But it is disabled in the BIOS, you have to enable it first.
This stinks, I have Intel Core 2 Duo T5270 which doesn't have Intel VT. When I asked my dad for a Core 2 Duo laptop, I didn't mean for him to buy the cheapest Core 2 Duo laptop he can find.
u can upgrade the prosser u know..its not sodderd to the MB..
and cor 2's are relatively cheep now a days..
newegg
Cheapest one on newegg: Intel Core 2 Duo T8100 2.1GHz = $209.99 Ouch FSB 800MHz Socket P
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Post subject: Re: Windows XP Mode for 7... Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 11:55 am
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@xeeynamo:
Run the securable.exe
If it's 32/64, Yes, Yes, then it runs. Otherwise go into the BIOS and and look if there is anything in the settings (most BIOS have it in Advanced Settings) that says, Hardware Virtualization or something and set it to enabled.
And they run the securable again, and if it then is good, try to run it again.
Post subject: Re: Windows XP Mode for 7... Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 1:04 pm
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DjRob wrote:
@xeeynamo:
Run the securable.exe
If it's 32/64, Yes, Yes, then it runs. Otherwise go into the BIOS and and look if there is anything in the settings (most BIOS have it in Advanced Settings) that says, Hardware Virtualization or something and set it to enabled.
And they run the securable again, and if it then is good, try to run it again.
My cpu support HV, but i don't see any option of this in the bios
Post subject: Re: Windows XP Mode for 7... Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 2:47 pm
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This is exactly what I was about to ask. Floppy support is in the BIOS but there doesn't seem to be any way at all to enable it that I can find. Can't even boot from a usb floppy of course. It seems an odd choice to ditch support for them so surely there is a way. (Personally I wanted to see if BeOS would run again...)
Post subject: Re: Windows XP Mode for 7... Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 5:22 pm
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Installed but if i want to run the others applications of xp (for example the old mspaint) from a shortcut? Oh, Virtual Windows XP doesn't support fullscreen's dos apps
Post subject: Re: Windows XP Mode for 7... Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 6:42 pm
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can someone help me?
It's just not working over here. I did a complete new install of build 7100 x86 some days ago, installed some stuff and tried the XP mode this morning. I rebooted lots of times and it won't open. I just get the following message:
Can someone tell me why it is not working? Everything is working properly. I have enough free space (70 GB on C:), all necessary drivers are working, and my hardware should not be the reason why it's not working (AMD Athlon 64 x2 4200+, ATi HD4670, enough HDDs and enough free space, ...). Or does it just work with Intel CPUs?
And has someone an idea whether I can find a solution in the System event log? I never worked with this utility.
Post subject: Re: Windows XP Mode for 7... Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 6:55 pm
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sibbl wrote:
can someone help me?
It's just not working over here. I did a complete new install of build 7100 x86 some days ago, installed some stuff and tried the XP mode this morning. I rebooted lots of times and it won't open. I just get the following message:
Can someone tell me why it is not working? Everything is working properly. I have enough free space (70 GB on C:), all necessary drivers are working, and my hardware should not be the reason why it's not working (AMD Athlon 64 x2 4200+, ATi HD4670, enough HDDs and enough free space, ...). Or does it just work with Intel CPUs?
And has someone an idea whether I can find a solution in the System event log? I never worked with this utility.
You're hardware is the fault.
The message clearly says:
Windows Virtual PC Error Dialog Box wrote:
Windows Virtual PC requires hardware-assisted virtualization. There is no hardware-assisted virtualization support in the system.
Translated: Either hardware-assisted virtualization (or just virtualization) in the BIOS is NOT enabled or the processor doesn't support AMD-V.
I think the processor or motherboard doesn't support it.
How many times you will try, if the hardware doesn't support it (you computer must be newer then about ~ 1 1/2 years) it will not run.
Post subject: Re: Windows XP Mode for 7... Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 7:01 pm
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did you enable virtualization in the BIOS? If you read the above posts... it would tell you to do that first... I have the 4200+ also, and it works fine for me...
Post subject: Re: Windows XP Mode for 7... Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 7:07 pm
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Thank you for this fast reply. I didn't know that it's linked to my hardware features because I always ran Virtual PC on older builds So I got no chance to get in running with my current hardware. And I guess I already found the problem. Wikipedia says
Quote:
AMD-V operates on AMD Athlon 64 and Athlon 64 X2 with family "F" or "G" on socket AM2 (not 939)
and my Athlon 64 X2 is on a socket 939
But I think lots of companies got such "old" (3yo) computers like mine. So lots of them won't be able to use that feature. And companies with newer computers are already using Vista because they got this performance. I don't think that this XP mode will be very successful.
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