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 PostPost subject: Victorian Bushfires        Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:29 pm 
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Long story short, the state of Victoria here in Australia hit record temps on Saturday, and alas bushfires have raged through the state, taking lives and wiping out entire towns.

Short story long:

From the BBC:
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Australian fires worst in history

"The death toll from bush fires in southern Australia has reached at least 84, the worst in the country's history.

Thousands of firefighters are battling several major fires, and the number of dead is expected to rise as rescue workers reach areas ravaged by fire. "

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7877178.stm
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From The Herald Sun:
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"UPDATE 10:07pm: THE death toll in Victoria's worst ever bushfires has hit 84. TV veteran Brian Naylor has been confirmed dead.

At least 650 homes have been destroyed and 3733 people have registered with the Red Cross after evacuating their properties.

Victoria Police Chief Commissioner Christine Nixon confirmed the death toll includes at least four children.

"The sad part for me is to say to the community that there will be more deaths, we believe," Ms Nixon said at a 6pm press conference at Moe Police Station.

"We will find more bodies as we gain access to different parts of the fire areas, where at the moment we just havn't been able to get in."
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From AdelaideNow (the Advertiser):
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84 Perish in "Hell's Fury

"CATASTROPHE: DOZENS of bodies have been found as Victoria's bushfire toll soars to 84 in a disaster Prime Minister Kevin Rudd calls "hell's fury".
At least 700 homes have been destroyed, more than 300,000 hectares burnt out, and some fires may take weeks to contain as the blazes threaten to figure in history as the worst bushfires and deadliest natural disaster Australia has ever experienced.

Entire towns have been wiped out and communities in Dederang, Taggerty and Glenburn in the state's north are still under threat, almost 36 hours after the first fires were sparked by record heat and winds on Saturday. "
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7877178.stm
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/ ... 61,00.html
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/stor ... 01,00.html

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 PostPost subject: Re: Victorian Bushfires        Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:52 pm 
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This sucks.

I just finished watching the Channel 10 new update (after Rove).
It's probably just gonna get worse.



Check this out:
http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/subsets/?subset=Australia6.2009038.aqua.250m

Its a satellite image of Victoria.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Victorian Bushfires        Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:56 pm 
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could see the smoke over here, sky was all brown/orange (and hot). quite sad how people have died


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 PostPost subject: Re: Victorian Bushfires        Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:28 pm 
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Saddest of all is the fact entire families, children and all were killed.
They say some of the fires were intentionally lit, or caused by people throwing cigarette buts out of car windows, either way, someone deserves to be charged with 84 count's of negligent homicide.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Victorian Bushfires        Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:19 pm 
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My condolences go out to all those families who have lost fellow members or who have lost friends. Its a sad sight, I have to say it was quite upsetting to hear about it. Anyone who lives near where the fires are burning, please don't put yourself at risk. Pack some belongings and go and stay with another part of your family if its become too much of a risk. Your life is more important than your home, just remember that.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Victorian Bushfires        Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:04 pm 
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108 now.

Alot of it is people trying to leave at the last second :/


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 PostPost subject: Re: Victorian Bushfires        Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:06 pm 
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Yeah, in many cases the people who stayed to defend their homes survived and those who went out in their cars were caught in fires on the roads.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Victorian Bushfires        Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:12 am 
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This is a horrific tragedy, the worst bushfire since Ash Wednesday in 1983. :(

An important thing to note as well is that these fires were exacerbated by the past month's heat wave which itself claimed about 100 lives, so the real death toll is about 210 people. :/

There's good live coverage and a radio stream at http://www.abc.net.au/news/events/bushfires/

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 PostPost subject: Re: Victorian Bushfires        Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:16 am 
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Now if only someone made a giant tube to pump that warm air over to Michigan.. [/offtopic]

Does anyone know when the drought is going to end? Hopefully not much longer


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 PostPost subject: Re: Victorian Bushfires        Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:48 am 
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Wow that is horrible... where I live in the US there are a lot of wildfires as well they turn millions of acres black, however people don't die as much.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Victorian Bushfires        Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:31 am 
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update: 130 dead, this is just insane, the government has to get a better warning/update system.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Victorian Bushfires        Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:43 am 
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News says one arsonist has been arrested for part of the fires.
Its also not just the deaths, 1000's of those who survived lost everything.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Victorian Bushfires        Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:58 am 
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betaluva wrote:
update: 130 dead, this is just insane, the government has to get a better warning/update system.

ABC Local Radio works perfectly fine as a Warning/Update system.
The warning systems aren't really to blame for this, the fires came to some of those areas so quickly residents didn't really have a chance of getting out. Also in areas such as Marysville or Kinglake they are surrounded by forest so even if they did get the message early enough they still would have to get out and if the only way to get out is going through the forest well the fire may very well be there or the road may be blocked by fallen trees.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Victorian Bushfires        Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:32 am 
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Also the fact you can get reception for ABC Radio/ABC TV/Triple J pretty much anywhere in Australia is why it's used as "the station" for emergencies.

131 confirmed, wouldn't be surprised if this doubles.

Horrific, arsonists should be up for life terms if they're caught.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Victorian Bushfires        Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:40 am 
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A massive amount of negligent homicide charges served consecutively would be longer than a life sentence (a life sentence being 25 years, what the [censored] is with that?)

Though with the joy's of bureaucracy, I'd say the [censored] doesn't get more than 6 years, 10 tops.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Victorian Bushfires        Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:15 am 
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Have you guys seen how huge the front is?

Even with todays cooler weather, I still think (sadly) this is going to take a long time to put out.




I agree with happy dude and jabster: they should be set up for life, but in the end they'll only get a short while.

[sarcasm]Life is fair, isn't it?[/sarcasm]


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 PostPost subject: Re: Victorian Bushfires        Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:37 am 
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lucas93 wrote:
I agree with happy dude and jabster: they should be set up for life, but in the end they'll only get a short while.

[sarcasm]Life is fair, isn't it?[/sarcasm]

That's assuming they do get caught, which is highly unlikely unless they hand themselves in.
And yes they should be up for at least 25 Years jail for what they did.


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http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/na ... 28042.aspx

As I said, one has been arrested.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Victorian Bushfires        Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:50 pm 
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UPDATE 6:50am WHOLE towns have been declared crime scenes as the toll from Victoria's worst natural disaster leapt to 173.


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