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 PostPost subject: Australia: Freedom of speech? [censored] that.        Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:05 am 
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Australia to implement mandatory internet censorship

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AUSTRALIA will join China in implementing mandatory censoring of the internet under plans put forward by the Federal Government.

The revelations emerge as US tech giants Google, Microsoft and Yahoo, and a coalition of human rights and other groups unveiled a code of conduct aimed at safeguarding online freedom of speech and privacy.

The government has declared it will not let internet users opt out of the proposed national internet filter.

The plan was first created as a way to combat child pronography and adult content, but could be extended to include controversial websites on euthanasia or anorexia.

Communications minister Stephen Conroy revealed the mandatory censorship to the Senate estimates committee as the Global Network Initiative, bringing together leading companies, human rights organisations, academics and investors, committed the technology firms to "protect the freedom of expression and privacy rights of their users".

Mr Conroy said trials were yet to be carried out, but "we are talking about mandatory blocking, where possible, of illegal material."

The net nanny proposal was originally going to allow Australians who wanted uncensored access to the web the option of contacting their internet service provider to be excluded from the service.

Human Rights Watch has condemned internet censorship, and argued to the US Senate "there is a real danger of a Virtual Curtain dividing the internet, much as the Iron Curtain did during the Cold War, because some governments fear the potential of the internet, (and) want to control it"

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How can the government be allowed to do this? This is clearly going to be used for censoring unpopular political opininons at the whims of the current party in charge.
That Oceania name certainly seems approptiate right now.

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Mr Conroy said trials were yet to be carried out, but "we are talking about mandatory blocking, where possible, of illegal material."


I hope this doesn't mean BA will be blocked for hosting unreleased Windows betas (like Windows 7).


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Haha no, I doubt many torrent sites would survive the internet-holocaust though.

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Herald Sun wrote:
Mr Conroy said trials were yet to be carried out, but "we are talking about mandatory blocking, where possible, of illegal material."

didn't know euthanasia or anorexia websites illegal? NZ's internet better not be affected by this


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Don't worry, It won't be

I read Atomic MPC and they said it's only AU

also if something like TPB was blocked people would just use proxies thats how people at my school use Youtube :D

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Apparently Australia is worse than the US when it comes to this sort of thing.


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Australia is about as bad as the UK, but they manage to implement more of their crap in Aus.

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Damn, there go my beta collecting days :(




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They said they won't block filesharing sites only kiddie porn.

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Australia is about as bad as the UK, but they manage to implement more of their crap in Aus.


Fair point. The UK Government want to implement monitoring of all UK internet traffic, but apart from being unrealistic, they have no idea where to even start. So it's got put on hold for now.

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[censored] [censored] [censored], Its all Kevins fault! :P


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Should be able to get around it with OpenDNS

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20:46 happydude2 plus with this filtering and [censored]
20:46 happydude2 someone is going to have to go to child porn sites daily and "inspect for illegal content"
20:47 happydude2 anyone thought of that? lolno


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Should be able to get around it with OpenDNS

I heard it wasn't to be DNS based, but based on heuristics to scan each page you load up through your ISP to ensure it is "safe". That would mean the government is telling ISPs to perform man in the middle attacks on anyone using the internet.

Your best bet would be to talk with someone in the US (namely Hawaii, they're closer) to set up an SSH tunnel for use of browsing the internet beyond the filter, or get a VPS host in the US and use them as a tunnel.


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Or not elect fascists. That also works.

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Or not elect fascists. That also works.


No one knew this was going to happen - if anything, they were promising faster internet ...

I vote longview for prime minister


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This was an election promise, I knew it before I voted for him, I knew it after I voted for him.

I'm against it, but I have a feeling that we wont be seeing it implemented in the way that it is described, more or less they will probably bargain and send out a software package to each home with a update module that swings in the blacklist of sites.

Or they will turn it into an Opt-in instead (like it was supposed to be from the damn start), either way, meh.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Australia: Freedom of speech? [censored] that.        Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:32 pm 
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longview wrote:
Australia: Freedom of speech? [censored] that.

Haha, oh wow. The irony.

By the way, you guys shouldn't really worry, it's only child porn sites that are getting blocked.


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Australia: Freedom of speech? [censored] that.

Haha, oh wow. The irony.

By the way, you guys shouldn't really worry, it's only child porn sites that are getting blocked.


And gambling, violent sites, certain health sites, educational material, hardcore porn and a heck of other types that they're currently writing guidelines up for.

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I'd be pissed off if I lived in AU, not that my Internet traffic isn't possibly all watched and recorded here but at least they don't filter it. You could always just tunnel all of your traffic through SSH to a server in some other country, or a VPN.


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Or they will turn it into an Opt-in instead (like it was supposed to be from the damn start), either way, meh.

From what I read, there's two "tiers" of filtering, one for the "illegal content" and another for adult content, and both are on by default. You can contact your ISP and opt-out of the adult content tier, but the other is mandatory.


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it first starts of with illegal porn, but eventually you will find that torrents sites get blocked. it would only be a matter of time. I wonder how many legit sites end up getting blocked? Post something that catches the filter on some forum and the entire site gets blocked?


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[censored] censorship, Just [censored] it.


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I wonder how many legit sites end up getting blocked? Post something that catches the filter on some forum and the entire site gets blocked?


Sounds like it. It seems it would also block sites like Something Awful.


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Yes, this makes no sense at all. Why can't they just accept that information wants to be free?


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Yes, this makes no sense at all. Why can't they just accept that information wants to be free?
Because they are bowing down to the people that want to enforce copyrights and remove child porn off the internet.


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