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 PostPost subject: Mysteries of universe to be probed in giant project        Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:29 pm 
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GENEVA (Reuters) - International physicists at a vast underground complex near Geneva launch a 20-year project on Wednesday to re-enact the "Big Bang" to try to explain the origins of the universe and how it came to harbor life.

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CERN scientists have been at pains to deny suggestions by some critics that the experiment could create tiny black holes of intense gravity that could suck in the whole planet*.


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Will it work and will we all go into a black hole. Discuss. :P

* = Sounds awesome :P.


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 6:34 pm 
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If it can at least manage to suck in France then its not all doom and gloom. :D


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i doubt it will happen, after all it was a 1 in a 1million chance weren't it?


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:26 pm 
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Something tiny, only the crazies are worried about it. You should at least post the it's called the Large Hadron Collider somewhere in there.


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djdanster wrote:
i doubt it will happen, after all it was a 1 in a 1million chance weren't it?

even though nothing bad will happen with this thing, 1 in a million isn't that bad. thats better than winning lotto here (with powerball its like 1 in 33million).

i think most of the people that are scared have just been reading the paper where they talk it up to make news/sales, if people had some kind of idea of what is actually happening they would know nothing will happen.

haven't they said stuff like this for all the previous ones?


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:44 am 
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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:55 am 
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That's not the kind of thing I want to see. :x


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Apparantly there are those who predict that this may allow time travel from the future.

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Aww no. No-one's dead. I guess we can think of a new way for the world to end now.

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:39 pm 
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LOL: www.HAStheLHCdestroyedTHEearth.com


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Apparently they don't start colliding the particles until 21st October. Another month or so yet.


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QuiescentWonder wrote:


did you see the web page's source? for lazy people:

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In their paper, Coleman and de Luccia noted:

The possibility that we are living in a false vacuum has never
been a cheering one to contemplate. Vacuum decay is the ultimate
ecological catastrophe; in the new vacuum there are new constants of
nature; after vacuum decay, not only is life as we know it impossible,
so is chemistry as we know it. However, one could always draw stoic
comfort from the possibility that perhaps in the course of time the
new vacuum would sustain, if not life as we know it, at least some
structures capable of knowing joy. This possibility has now been
eliminated.
The second special case ... applies if we are now living in the
debris of a false vacuum ... This case presents us with less
interesting physics and with fewer occasions for rhetorical excess
than the preceding one.

S. Coleman and F. De Luccia (1980). "Gravitational effects on and of vacuum decay". Physical Review D21: 3305.


the crab always wins; it makes the baby syntacticians cry.

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anyone else notice that that has nothing to do with anything?

and new fact: the crab always wins

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:08 pm 
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Will it work and will we all go into a black hole. Discuss.

Have we gone into a black hole with older particle accelerators? No.

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The LHC is not powerful enough to generate a black hole.


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The scientists behind the LHC admit the fact that there is a possibility, however small, that the formation of tiny black holes is a possibility. They said as much in the EU Court of Human Rights. They also said that although possible, the chances of it lasting more than a fraction of a second were virtually nil [insert some physics crap here explaining why not, most likely by Stephen Hawking]. Is it powerful enough to create a black hole? Probably. Will it destroy the universe as we know it? Unlikely. Neither of those answers are definitive, but then thats theory for you. They don't actually know what will happen till they try it, and until its over and done with no one can categorically state with any certainty that nothing untoward will happen, but then thats science for you.

http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:27 pm 
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Besides, isn't it supposedly going to prove the rest of the fundamental particles that make up our universe exist? Sounds pretty important to me.


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