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 PostPost subject: Google HAS RELEASED Open-Source Browser Named Chrome        Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 6:41 pm 
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Source: http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2008-09-01-n47.html

Today there was a comic book in my mail, sent by Google and drawn by no less than Scott McCloud, creator of the classic Understanding Comics. Within the 38 pages, which I’ve scanned and put up, in very readable format Google gives the technical details into a project of theirs: an open source browser called Google Chrome. The book points to www.google.com/chrome, but I can’t see anything live there yet. In a nut-shell, here’s what the comic announces Google Chrome to be:

* Google Chrome is Google’s open source browser project. As rumored before under the name of “Google Browser”, this will be based on the existing rendering engine Webkit. Furthermore, it will include Google’s Gears project.
* The browser will include a JavaScript Virtual Machine called V8, built from scratch by a team in Denmark, and open-sourced as well so other browsers could include it. One aim of V8 was to speed up JavaScript performance in the browser, as it’s such an important component on the web today. Google also say they’re using a “multi-process design” which they say means “a bit more memory up front” but over time also “less memory bloat.” When web pages or plug-ins do use a lot of memory, you can spot them in Chrome’s task manager, “placing blame where blame belongs.”
* Google Chrome will use special tabs. Instead of traditional tabs like those seen in Firefox, Chrome puts the tab buttons on the upper side of the window, not below the address bar.

* The browser has an address bar with auto-completion features. Called ’omnibox’, Google says it offers search suggestions, top pages you’ve visited, pages you didn’t visit but which are popular amd more. The omnibox (“omni” is a prefix meaning “all”, as in “omniscient” – “all-knowing”) also lets you enter e.g. “digital camera” if the title of the page you visited was “Canon Digital Camera”. Additionally, the omnibox lets you search a website of which it captured the search box; you need to type the site’s name into the address bar, like “amazon”, and then hit the tab key and enter your search keywords.
* As a default homepage Chrome presents you with a kind of “speed dial” feature, similar to the one of Opera. On that page you will see your most visited webpages as 9 screenshot thumbnails. To the side, you will also see a couple of your recent searches and your recently bookmarked pages, as well as recently closed tabs.

* Chrome has a privacy mode; Google says you can create an “incognito” window “and nothing that occurs in that window is ever logged on your computer.” The latest version of Internet Explorer calls this InPrivate. Google’s use-case for when you might want to use the “incognito” feature is e.g. to keep a surprise gift a secret. As far as Microsoft’s InPrivate mode is concerned, people also speculated it was a “porn mode.”
* Web apps can be launched in their own browser window without address bar and toolbar. Mozilla has a project called Prism that aims to do similar (though doing so may train users into accepting non-URL windows as safe or into ignoring the URL, which could increase the effectiveness of phishing attacks).
* To fight malware and phishing attempts, Chrome is constantly downloading lists of harmful sites. Google also promises that whatever runs in a tab is sandboxed so that it won’t affect your machine and can be safely closed. Plugins the user installed may escape this security model, Google admits.

This looks like a very interesting project, and I think it can’t hurt to have more competition in the browser area. Google is playing this as nicely as possible by open-sourcing things, with perhaps part of the reason to try to defend against monopoly accusations – after all, Google already owns a lot of what’s happening inside the browser, and some may feel owning a browser too could be a little too much power for a single company (Google could, for instance, release browser features that benefit their sites more than most other sites... as can Microsoft with Internet Explorer). For now, until Chrome is released in a testable version, how much of the speed, stability and user interface promises will be fullfilled – and how much of the interface you’ll be able to configure in case you don’t like it – remains to be seen.

UPDATE: It's out, get it Here: http://www.google.com/chrome


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 6:52 pm 
the google page gives me

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edit, @bender, sorry, my fault


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The book points to www.google.com/chrome, but I can’t see anything live there yet.


Read the text :wink:

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Yeah, try typing in www.google.com/whatever-you-want-here and it gives you a different error than the one you get with www.google.com/chrome


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Some screenshots:

http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2008-09-02-n72.html


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UPDATE: It's supposed to be released tomorrow in over 100 countries.


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Wow, I'll be sure to test this one. It will be very interesting to see if Google makes a good browser or a bad one.

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Isn't "chrome" from the world of Netscape?

This looks like another ugly browser, that vainly atempts to claim innovation...
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Chrome puts the tab buttons on the upper side of the window, not below the address bar.


Lastly, it will complete Google's information empire, not only will they know what your searching for [google.com] and what is on your desktop [desktop.google.com] - Now they know exactly what you are browsing and looking at 8-)

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Frozenport wrote:
Isn't "chrome" from the world of Netscape?

The protocol I think is from Netscape but other browsers (like Firefox) seem to have adopted it too.

Also I'm starting to have second thoughts about this. Have you seen the logo yet?
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^ This is the pester ball. A spherical object used in the game Pokemon Snap to annoy Pokemon into coming out of hiding places.

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^ This is the Google Chrome logo which has strange resemblance to the pester ball. Perhaps the annoyance is going to resemble the pester ball too. We'll just have to wait and see I guess.

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IMO, Google Chrome seems like a pretty good browser. However, the main reason that I like it is because it "sandboxes" each tab into its own process, so if something goes wrong in a tab, it only crashes that tab.

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:29 pm 
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Its available for download now.

http://www.google.com/chrome


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I'm using it right now. So far it looks like a chrome-colored Firefox.

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Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US) AppleWebKit/525.13 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/0.2.149.27 Safari/525.13


Google Chrome is Safari, a Windows based Apple browser.


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And this is is my Firefox

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So they built a JS engine and a minimalist GUI?

And I'm supposed to abandon Opera for it?

E: Their crappy speed dial thing is broken I can't change any of the links.

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Home button disabled by default. 30 seconds of headscratching. Its quick, but its also fairly bland. It's not difficult to delete cache or history in any of the other available browsers so unless Chrome is actualy going to offer something truely spectacular then I dont see the others have anything to worry about. Perhaps Google wil rely on little more than their reach to push their browser becuase I personaly dont see it offering anything in terms of the usability and personal customization of any of its competitors.


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The neat thing about this is that when you're using Google Spreadsheet, Google Mail, Google Calendar, Google Notepad and Google Memegenerator and your Google Video flash player locks up it won't crash all the other apps, just that tab.
So this is a way of making web-based apps more stable and feasible. Guess who makes web-based apps.

This is also why they made that extremely quick JS engine.

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Lol i like it. While it prolly won't replace firefox ill use it.

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 PostPost subject: Anyone got it to run on LH4074 yet ?        Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:44 pm 
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As topic.. anyone got it to run on LH4074 yet ?

I tried to :
1) install normaly.. dident work... notthing happends
2) copy the installation folder form another XP... dident work
3) Make a portable version using thinstall. when running normaly it crashes on start, when set to XP comp. mode, it will start, but not show any pages :-/

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Lol, Microsoft doesn't seem to approve of google chrome:
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 PostPost subject: Re: Anyone got it to run on LH4074 yet ?        Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:44 pm 
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leonbollerup wrote:
As topic.. anyone got it to run on LH4074 yet ?

I tried to :
1) install normaly.. dident work... notthing happends
2) copy the installation folder form another XP... dident work
3) Make a portable version using thinstall. when running normaly it crashes on start, when set to XP comp. mode, it will start, but not show any pages :-/

any other ideas ?


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I'll have a look at this tomorrow. I'm pretty sure there is no reason for it not to work :S

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I just noticed one thing that really annoys me about Chrome: there is no scrolling where you click in the middle button and move the mouse toward the top/bottom of the screen. Is this just a problem with my computer or is everyone's like this?

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I guess support for Windows 2000 really is dieing down now. :?

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I guess support for Windows 2000 really is dieing down now. :?

Windows 2000?!?! I'm still using Windows 98! No wonder nothing new is working. :P

But seriously, I guess companies only see the need to support what's new. However 2000 is currently in extended support from Microsoft so technically it is still supported by Microsoft in a way.

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Jeff wrote:
I just noticed one thing that really annoys me about Chrome: there is no scrolling where you click in the middle button and move the mouse toward the top/bottom of the screen. Is this just a problem with my computer or is everyone's like this?


I'm having scrolling issues too, with my trackpad. It'll scroll down, but it won't scroll up.

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