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 PostPost subject: 1 out of 3 Vista PC`s being downgraded to XP        Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:45 pm 
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More than one in every three new PCs is downgraded from Windows Vista to the older Windows XP, either at the factory or by the buyer, a performance and metrics researcher said today.

According to Devil Mountain Software Inc., which operates a community-based testing network, nearly 35% of the 3,000-plus PCs it examined had been downgraded from Vista to XP.

"Either these machines were downgraded by [sellers like] Dell or HP, or they were downgraded by the user after they got the machine," said Craig Barth, chief technology officer at Devil Mountain. "In any case, these machines are no longer running Vista."

Source, Computerworld: http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxonomyName=windows&articleId=9112885&taxonomyId=125&intsrc=kc_top

Infoworld article: http://weblog.infoworld.com/sentinel/archives/2008/08/bursting_the_vi.html

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:03 pm 
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Virusses are not specially created for XP, they work on 95 to Vista.

Just get an good anti-virus (free or not free).

And this was also the case with Windows XP.
People want something new, microsoft delivers something new, people say its too big, too heavy, and then when the next version is half way trough development everybody switches to the os that they said it was too big and too heavy.

Most people saying that they dont like it, didnt even tryed it.

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Good point.

and I love how all of the stories about vista downgrades are so biased too. They dont mention the fact that the only way you can downgrade vista systems is if its the business or ultimate versions of it. which arent the version that most consumers have in the first place. SO people read those stories and then get to wonder if they messed up by buying a system that ""everyone else"" is downgrading. :^)

Of course like you said It was the same way with winxp for the first what 3-4 years of it. and will be the same thing all over again when 7 launches.

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People who are doing it in their homes are probably having huge issues downgrading to XP. I wonder why we never hear of that. I've installed XP on machines designed for Vista, it took three days between three different people before we found all the drivers for it, and that was probably 6+ months ago. Not to mention that in possibly 100% of new laptops you need AHCI drivers, what average person knows how to find those? Most people probably can't even get XP installed on their Vista machines.


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There is nothing you can do about it thats how ''users'' are.

Me personnally never had any real problems with Windows (except that my PC wouldnt run Vista anymore, so it FORCED me reinstall XP) and love all versions of windows.

If I didn't love all windows versions I didn't started the Microsoft Windows Collection Book.

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I also downgraded myself (well. to xp x64, i did like the 64bit part of it :P )


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I still find XP better to use than Vista. Less problem for me.


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One major reason is that system administrators will often downgrade a PC without asking the recipient.

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tristan wrote:
I also downgraded myself (well. to xp x64, i did like the 64bit part of it :P )


How hard was it to find drivers for everything? How old is your computer? Did it come with Vista or did you install Vista and decide against it later on?

Also, XDude, what problems did you have with Vista?

If you have a computer made very recently by a major OEM and not some off-brand, good luck finding XP drivers for everything, especially if you have a laptop.


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DjRob wrote:
Virusses are not specially created for XP, they work on 95 to Vista.

Just get an good anti-virus (free or not free).

And this was also the case with Windows XP.
People want something new, microsoft delivers something new, people say its too big, too heavy, and then when the next version is half way trough development everybody switches to the os that they said it was too big and too heavy.

Most people saying that they dont like it, didnt even tryed it.


But in Mainland China

95% of viruses/trojans are designed for xp

A lot of computer newbies(didn't install anti-virus)

Will infected and Hacker control the computers~

Well,A lot of money come from newbies 8o|

edit:you may download some trojans in some virus website

but try your own risk :wink:

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If you read the Symantec/Sophos, Virus database you will find that most virusses work on Windows 95 to Vista.

If they work on XP they also work on 2000.

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I honestly don't fear viruses as much as I used to anymore. These days, it's all about identity theft...


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I downgraded myself. I don`t want or need all Vista`s features. Sure, some of the features are nice (like the sidebar) But i don`t really "need" it, and i prefer speed over features.


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Virusses are not specially created for XP, they work on 95 to Vista

What about NT 3.xx?

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Maybe the virusses work on them too, but even then, it has a different system (i know its 32-bit)

But it works different them from Windows NT4 and up.

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:52 am 
I did downgrade to xp after a month of using it but got bored of xp again so went back to vista and that was like back in last november

now still on vista


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I don't think Vista is that bad. It has an image problem, some problems with hardware, and problems with not so fast computers (with fast computers, it works fine).

I think XP is better, because you don't have to give permission to all the thinks you would like to do.

(isn't it idiot that you have to say that ie7 is allowed to download, when you click at a download?)

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Even the cheapest of desktop computers will now run Vista fine with enough RAM.

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I think XP is better, because you don't have to give permission to all the thinks you would like to do.


You can shut that off.


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