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 PostPost subject: Terrabyte era well on its way        Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:57 am 
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A single hard drive with four terabytes of storage (4TB) could be a reality by 2011, thanks to a nanotechnology breakthrough by Japanese firm Hitachi.

The company has successfully managed to shrink the read-write head of a hard drive to two thousand times smaller than the width of a human hair.

Hitachi said the advance would fuel the "terabyte era", with a 4TB drive able to hold more than a million songs.


Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7044606.stm

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Here we go again, in 20 years time people will be laughing at 4GB of ram and 256GB hard drives just like we laugh at 4MB RAM and 256MB HDD's...

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Who had that much in '87?

Heck, PC's was hardly running Windows then... the most widely used GUI 20 years ago was the Amiga with either 1.2 or 1.3 .......


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Here we go again, in 20 years time people will be laughing at 4GB of ram and 256GB hard drives just like we laugh at 4MB RAM and 256MB HDD's...

20 years ago, it would cost millions to get 4GB ram if you can even get your hands on it.


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Who had that much in '87?

Heck, PC's was hardly running Windows then... the most widely used GUI 20 years ago was the Amiga with either 1.2 or 1.3 .......

The Macintosh Plus, on sale 1986-1990, did actually support 1 to 4 MB Ram, and is listed as such in the Apple Spec Database which means that it was possible to have that much memory in it when it was new (Apple don't update their spec database to account for larger memory modules that become available later on and allow a computer to take more memory than it could given the memory modules available when it was new). Most would probably have come with just the standard 1 MB though.

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Compact-mac wrote:
Here we go again, in 20 years time people will be laughing at 4GB of ram and 256GB hard drives just like we laugh at 4MB RAM and 256MB HDD's...

20 years ago, it would cost millions to get 4GB ram if you can even get your hands on it.


I said in 20 years time i.e. in the future people will laugh at 4GB RAM.

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Doctor Mindvipe wrote:
Who had that much in '87?

Heck, PC's was hardly running Windows then... the most widely used GUI 20 years ago was the Amiga with either 1.2 or 1.3 .......

The Macintosh Plus, on sale 1986-1990, did actually support 1 to 4 MB Ram, and is listed as such in the Apple Spec Database which means that it was possible to have that much memory in it when it was new (Apple don't update their spec database to account for larger memory modules that become available later on and allow a computer to take more memory than it could given the memory modules available when it was new). Most would probably have come with just the standard 1 MB though.


My statement still stands though, I've got the feeling, more people had already an Amiga by then, rather thana Mac in their homes. And besdies, just because a computer supported 4MB RAM, doesn't mean it SHIPPED with it, nor that most people who bought that computer, HAD 4MB ;)


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OMG like 1 million songs? why do they always have to say how many songs things can fit?


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OMG like 1 million songs? why do they always have to say how many songs things can fit?


Would you be able to complain if you could only fit 999,999 songs on it? :P

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___ wrote:
OMG like 1 million songs? why do they always have to say how many songs things can fit?


Would you be able to complain if you could only fit 999,999 songs on it? :P

Yes. If I miss out on ONE single Iron Maidnen sonf because I canonly fit 999.999 songs, I'm gonna sue them to Kingdom Come :P


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i MUST fit 1 million
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I bet that out of those 1 million songs, you'd only ever listen to about 20 of them, lol ... :D

They should try and make faster hard drives before they make bigger ones in my opinion ... 8-)

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Doctor Mindvipe wrote:
Who had that much in '87?

According to Moore's law (i.e. the amount of RAM/HD space/transistors doubles every 1.5 years):
Amount of cycles in 20 years: 20 / 1.5 = 13.334
20 year modifier: 2^13.334 = 10,321.27
That is, if today the standard is 2GB, then 20 years ago it was 2GB / 10,321.27 = ~200 KB, and 20 years from now it will be 2GB * 10,321.27 = ~20 TB.

As for the original topic, promising 4TB by 2011 is stupid. Again, according to Moore's law, the current 1TB max should quadruple within 3 years, so if they launch a 4TB disk in 2011, they'll be late (IIRC it was Seagate who launched the first 1TB disk, so it fits).

EDIT: A logic error caused my math to look funny (why did I use a logarithm for a linear equation? :oops: ). Now it fits history better, too (6 MB at 1987? wtf?).


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lol.. i can barley get 120gb. on my laptop.. but 4TB is outrageous!!
just think there was a time when people freaked out about 500mb HDD


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