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 PostPost subject: Mac OS 9 Software (esp. Word 98 & HyperCard)        Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 3:01 am 
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Hello all. My PowerBook G3 now runs Mac OS 9 primarily for the reason I will be getting my new iMac soon, and I don't want two computers with the same related OS on it! :) So, I'm currently running OS 9.2.1 (will upgrade to 9.2.2, but I believe that was only for bug fixes for OS X Classic Environment).

Anyhoo, I was wondering if anyone could suggest a couple of sites or good programs for Mac OS 9. I have a TON right now, but I'd like your input.

What software I'm REALLY looking for:
  • MS Word 98 (I owned it once before)
  • DreamWeaver MX (Mac OS 9)
  • HyperCard 2.x
  • Some good site-editing tools
  • Any suggestions you may have!

Productivity: I have AppleWorks 6 as my primary editor, but I'd like to have the "Word" environment, as most of my documents on my Windows PC are .doc related (including my novel, which will be a huge issue to have convert back and forth with). I had Word 98 on my PowerBook 190cs, but that computer died one me, so I couldn't transfer it. I also have BBEdit Lite and a few other small text editors. I also wanted to try out HyperCard as I used to use HyperStudio back in the day at school, and it was tons of fun!

Internet: I use Internet Explorer 5.2.3 (the latest one) and Outlook Express (I really like this version of any mail program for Mac OS so far!). I do NOT want to use iCab. It is sluggish and the time it takes to load sites, I could just use IE. So don't suggest it please.

Games: Marathon III (by Bungie, the creators of Halo), SimCity 2000, Oregon Trail, Shufflepuck Cafe, etc. etc. I'm not really looking for games. Unless someone had a copy of The Sims for the Mac. I only have Windows versions of those.

Multimedia: iTunes 2.x (latest one). I LOVE this version. True, not compatible with the newer iPods, but my PowerBook G3 doesn't have a 2.0 USB or Firewire, and it's not my main computer anyways! I also love it because there is no Music Store or "graphical enhancements" to get in the way. And Radio! <3 I also have QuickTime 6, etc. etc.[/list][/list]

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 4:28 am 
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I have a copy of Dreamweaver Ultradev 4 which is kinda like MX
As for the net there is a wide variety but i think netscape is the best up to 7 works on OS9
There is audion for music but its very different from itunes
I also have a ton of macromedia software for classic which is a little outdated but some were never updated and they work well
It includes freehand 7
fontograper
Extreme 3d 2
XRES- exactly like photoshop but its better and it runs smooth in 9 providing you have a fair amount of ram
might have other things but have to look


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 10:15 am 
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I believe I have Office 98 and 2001 for Mac OS Classic.
And I also have trial versions of Dreamweaver, Fireworks and Flash MX for OS 9.


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 10:26 am 
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I should have Office 98 Mac somewhere, if you want it. 2001 is the last version that runs on OS 9, though that might be considered "warez" if I uploaded it. I have lots of Adobe apps and stuff like that as well if you need them - Acrobat 5 Pro, Photoshop 7, Illustrator, iMovie 2, Final Cut Pro 3, etc :) I will look later to see if I have any Macromedia stuff.


A lot of the sites that I knew for Classic software seem to have disappeared recently, but I have several CDs of the stuff I've collected.

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 11:13 am 
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Actually, Word 97 is on the server (in Danish. lol). Works 3.0 for Mac is on the server. If 2001 is still considered Warez (however, I believe ANYTHING running on Mac OS 9 should be considered abandonware), then please PM me with any details regarding how I may acquire it.

Dreamweaver Ultradev 4 would be appreciative to try out as well. This seems to be a copy of DW3, in which MX (DW6) was the last version to be released for Mac OS 9.

Netscape is alright. I'll see how it runs on my PowerBook, as downloading it won't be hard to find.

I'm not sure what Acrobat 5 Pro includes (as in the Reader, the PDF Creator, etc.). I may need a good graphics editor such as Photoshop or XRES. I don't really need movie-editing software as this Mac only has 8MB of VRAM and isn't game-intense hardware.

Also, I forgot to put in the list I'm looking for HyperCard or HyperStudio (its equivalent). I only have the Player and don't like PowerPoint on the Mac. I had it before a while back, but that was a while ago.


Thanks you for your input!
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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 10:07 pm 
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I looked it up Ultradev is 5.0. There is no real 5.0 it runs well and the mx versions are kinda annoying to install any of the macromedia stuff you need to update from 5.0 which i have and ill upload them together


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I have an extremely old HyperCard on genuine disks but that will probably be too old (it's absolutely ancient, it must be the original one), and I do have a set of disk images downloaded from somewhere with a newer one (2.3) but I think I possibly tried them once and couldn't get them to work, though I can't remember for sure. However, I also have 2.1 as one already-installed disk image that looks as though it should work if you want that.


The main OS 9 apps in my collection apart from those already mentioned that may or may not be useful are Photoshop 7 (last one for OS 9, Carbon so also runs on X - a bit big for uploading though) (and some older ones), Illustrator 9, Dreamweaver 3, Flash 5, GraphicConverter 5.9.5, QuarkXPress 4, Toast 5, StuffIt 7, Virtual PC 4, and InDesign 1.5.

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Okay, so in the mail I just got my 5 zip disks and an AirPort card. I popped in the wireless card and it did nothing except lock up the computer for a few seconds. So I took it out and tried again. NOTHING.

Then I went online to find out that the Pismo PowerBook G3 was the FIRST PowerBook to support the AirPort wireless card, not the Lombard.

So I'm very upset to spend that much money on a wireless card I stupidly bought off eBay. Hopefully I can contact the user to return it because I want my money back to buy a PCMCIA card that will actually work. :(

EDIT: The Zip disks work great by the way. :D

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Yes, AirPort cards are only meant for internal AirPort slots, they won't work in standard external PC Card slots, even though they look like normal PC Cards. You could always just re-sell it, they still go for a very high price for what they are as there is a limited supply of them and lots of older Macs around that weren't ordered with them new as no-one had wireless back then.

Note that only specific cards will be compatible with OS 9's AirPort drivers, eg the Orinocco WaveLan cards (best to research before you buy though) as they have the same chipset as Apple's AirPort cards I think. Also note that OS 9 cannot connect to WPA-protected networks.

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Vista Ultimate R2 wrote:
Yes, AirPort cards are only meant for internal AirPort slots, they won't work in standard external PC Card slots, even though they look like normal PC Cards. You could always just re-sell it, they still go for a very high price for what they are as there is a limited supply of them and lots of older Macs around that weren't ordered with them new as no-one had wireless back then.

Note that only specific cards will be compatible with OS 9's AirPort drivers, eg the Orinocco WaveLan cards (best to research before you buy though) as they have the same chipset as Apple's AirPort cards I think. Also note that OS 9 cannot connect to WPA-protected networks.
Yeah, I'm okay with no wireless right now. I contacted the seller that it didn't with work my model and see if s/he has some sort of return policy. If not, I will sell the card on eBay or to this one local pawn broker in the area.

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