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 PostPost subject: [OFFER] Windows NT Workstation 3.5 OEM        Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:41 am 
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I have an Windows NT Workstation 3.5 OEM CD in my collection that I can provide if there is any interest.

The jewelcase has a label that says "PRISM OEM DISTRIBUTION". The CD has also a note on it that says it is a OEM version. It is just this CD in a labeled jewelcase. I have no floppies or any documentation with it.


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 PostPost subject: Re: [OFFER] Windows NT Workstation 3.5 OEM        Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:43 am 
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Can you share some pictures of it? I'd like to have a look.

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 PostPost subject: Re: [OFFER] Windows NT Workstation 3.5 OEM        Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 4:38 am 
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I'd be interested in trying this out too, I have a compute that this would be period appropriate for.

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It sounds quite interesting.

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 PostPost subject: Re: [OFFER] Windows NT Workstation 3.5 OEM        Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:22 am 
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I will post a picture later on when I get home.


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Here are two photos to show what I am talking about. If noone objects, I will be dumping this to the FTP sometime in the next few days.

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Here are two photos to show what I am talking about. If noone objects, I will be dumping this to the FTP sometime in the next few days.

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Thanks,

can't wait to try!

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 PostPost subject: Re: [OFFER] Windows NT Workstation 3.5 OEM        Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:00 am 
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We don't have a properly dumped and scanned version of NT 3.5, so this would really be nice to add to the collection!

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 PostPost subject: Re: [OFFER] Windows NT Workstation 3.5 OEM        Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:37 am 
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We don't have a properly dumped and scanned version of NT 3.5, so this would really be nice to add to the collection!

I have Windows NT 3.5/PPC from IBM:
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That would also be highly interesting to get a scan and dump of!

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Yes, please do upload this PPC version! I would be quite interested in that.


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Thank you!

I also just uploaded my OEM version.


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Thanks for the uploads, I've added yours Beluga to the FTP already. I am still waiting for completion uploads for the PPC edition.

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 PostPost subject: Re: [OFFER] Windows NT Workstation 3.5 OEM        Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:36 pm 
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would the windows nt 3.5 ppc version work on powerpc macs because if someone can give me a download link here for it on mega, i would try that out.

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would the windows nt 3.5 ppc version work on powerpc macs because if someone can give me a download link here for it on mega, i would try that out.


It wont work on such machines.

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would the windows nt 3.5 ppc version work on powerpc macs because if someone can give me a download link here for it on mega, i would try that out.


It wont work on such machines.


What is the reason for this?


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My uneducated guess would be because of Apple's proprietary firmware.

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This has been covered already on BetaArchive in this thread, should explain it all.

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PPC Macs uses OldWorld ROMs, Windows NT requires OpenFirmware which were available on non-Apple PowerPC machines (like IBM Thinkpad 850 Series which I have personal experience with). Because a system has the same processor as other systems doesn't mean the OSes are compatible as the hardware as well as the "BIOS" needs to be supported as well.

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This has been covered already on BetaArchive in this thread, should explain it all.

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PPC Macs uses OldWorld ROMs, Windows NT requires OpenFirmware which were available on non-Apple PowerPC machines (like IBM Thinkpad 850 Series which I have personal experience with). Because a system has the same processor as other systems doesn't mean the OSes are compatible as the hardware as well as the "BIOS" needs to be supported as well.


Theoretically, would it be possible to replace the OldWorld ROM on a Mac with an OpenFimware ROM chip and go from there?


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And don't PPC MacBooks have OpenFirmware?

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TuneableSumo876 wrote:

Theoretically, would it be possible to replace the OldWorld ROM on a Mac with an OpenFimware ROM chip and go from there?


Just as theoretically you could replace an Amiga ROM with a BIOS ROM from my old Shuttle mobo...

No it won't work. You do realise what the BIOS/OpenFirmware ROM/OldWorld ROM does right?

And yes, the PPC MacBooks uses OpenFirmware but you need more than just that, the hardware needs to be PReP-compliant (and later CHRP-compliant which required OpenFirmware), Apple computers are not and therefore will not work with NT as Steve Jobs didn't want their Macs to open up the hardware to comply with the standard.

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 PostPost subject: Re: [OFFER] Windows NT Workstation 3.5 OEM        Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 5:24 pm 
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Has the upload of the PPC edition been completed yet? I would be really interested in this :)


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No, it was never properly uploaded.

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I hope wbyte sees this and does a proper re-upload. I would really appreciate that!

I do not know in what way this upload was done improperly, but given the rarity of 3.5 PPC, even an ISO-dump would be quite valuable.


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