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 PostPost subject: Abandonware games        Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:37 pm 
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Back in 1996 -when you could buy a pirate CD full of games in Mexico City's most important tech mall- I got from a friend a CD with 32 games and aplications for MS DOS and Windows 95.

As a way to test out my old OSs compatibility I frequently install those games in the virtual machines and try to run them.

When I got the FTP pass I went to the abandonware section and noticed that are very few games. And I think the applications that the CD has aren't on the Aplications Abandonware folder.

So I was wondering if I could upload this programs to the betaarchive server's abandonware folders, since most of them are very old. The games are:

[*] Dinsey's Alladdin
[*] Amazona's Syndrome
[*] BC Racer
[*] Cavemans
[*] Comanche
[*] Dave II
[*] Descent
[*] Dark Forces
[*] Golden Axe
[*] Heretic
[*] Hexen
[*] Hi Octane (Oh... how many times I made someone blow up in this game...)
[*] Jungle Strike
[*] Lemming
[*] Lemmings
[*] Disney's Lion King
[*] Nascar 1 (from Sierra and Papyrus Software)
[*] One Must Fall 2097
[*] Pool for Windows
[*] Prince of Persia II
[*] The Fortress of Doctor Radiaki (Shareware version only)
[*] Rambo III
[*] Raptor: Call of the Shadows
[*] Rise of the Triad
[*] Sango (weird game that is only in Chinese. I could never install it, let alone play it)
[*] Super Street Fighter II Turbo
[*] Spear of Destiny
[*] Cool Spot
[*] TFX (Awesome combat flight sim)
[*] Tomb Raider II
[*] Transport Tycoon
[*] Veil of Darkness
[*] Wolfenstein 3-D
[*] X-Men: Child of the Atom
[*] X-Wing

The Apps are:

[*] AfterDark for Windows 95
[*] Anti Virus McAffee
[*] NeverLock 94 (for cracking some of the games above, like X-Wing)
[*] Plus! for Windows 95

Which ones should I upload, if any?

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 PostPost subject: Re: Abandonware games        Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:00 pm 
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 PostPost subject: Re: Abandonware games        Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:22 pm 
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How big is it all?

Sadly the cracker is not permitted (but you can rip it and put it on megeupload/rapidshare then for people who want it), but all games are older then 10 years? eg, made before 1999 july 17th.

Then you can upload them, but I think it would be a while before it processed.
But then again you can also put it all in a megeupload/rapidshare file and upload it here also for eventually release.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Abandonware games        Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:32 pm 
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Everything (taking out NeverLock '94) is 479 mb without being compressed. Depending the game is how big the folder, for example, Dave II is a mere 228 kb, while Tomb Raider II (which is the newest game, being released in 1997 is 228 mb).

In rar (38 rars in total) they take up 341 mb, with the smallest being Dave II (228 kb) and the largest being Tomb Raider II (143 mb), which is the only one bigger than 30 mb (the second largest one is Dark Forces [26 mb]).

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 PostPost subject: Re: Abandonware games        Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:07 am 
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DjRob wrote:
Sadly the cracker is not permitted.

Really? I don't really see how it isn't when the software it crack's in abandonware. We allow cracks for alphas and betas don't we?

Looking in the rules I can't see anything that states the cracker wouldn't be allowed...


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1. There are only five abandonware games in the FTP because it's not a big priority.
2. Although they are not listed, I would love to play Freespace 2, and X: Beyond the Frontier (in a few months both will become abandonware)...

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Why is the cracker not allowed?
Its not like its going to work on anything modern.

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Just like that gemini lost game, it had an serialnumber generator for it in it, but it was removed.

For alpha and beta's it is also not permitted, just search for posts of mrpijey everything that has an serial generator/crack in it, it is removed.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Abandonware games        Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:50 am 
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i got some old programs and games that more than 10 years old i think i got some more dos games than some windows 95 games oldest i think is fallen haven lol


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The BA FTP Server does not allow cracks. However, my understanding is that cracks that work on Abandonware/Betas *only* are allowed to be discussed and linked to. (Ones that also work with modern retail software are not allowed).

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 PostPost subject: Re: Abandonware games        Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 8:52 pm 
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You should definitely upload Descent, since the source code was released years ago.

I might upload Descent II if I can find time to do so.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Abandonware games        Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:28 am 
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It'd be great if you could upload a few. I'd love to see Heretic again.


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Just an updare.

After... half a month since the original post, today I uploaded all the games -sans the cracker- to the Upload FTP following all the rules posted on that very same FTP server. I hope that, in a few months, they'll be readily available on the downloads FTP.

Thanks for all the feedback, and I'll post any news on this issue as soon as I get them.

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The simple reason that we don't want cracks, serials or keygen software for abandonware is because BA is not a warez site. We allow serials for betas and we allows patches for otherwise non-functional betas but for complete software such as abandonware we only keep them on BA for the users enjoyment, and also for preserving originals. So we insist that every piece of abandonware is kept in its original form. I.e no folder dumps or pre-installed/pre-patched warez releases, but floppy images and ISO images of original installation media.

So if any of those you listed are in floppy image/ISO image then you are free to upload them, I will go through them and remove any cracks or serials found on them. If they are not then they are not really interesting, I got several GB myself of "warezed" abandonware I could easily upload. But I won't for the reasons I've stated above.

May I also remind many users that many of these abandonwares are still sold through services like Steam. So we will watch what is released, and any game that is uploaded that is still sold on Steam will be held unreleased until it is not available anymore. As long as Steam (and other services) sell the games they are not abandonware, thus not eligible for release on BA.

But if any of you members here has old floppies, games or applications, don't hesitate to dump them and send them up. And ask me if you got any questions regarding a release or format etc.

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The simple reason that we don't want cracks, serials or keygen software for abandonware is because BA is not a warez site. We allow serials for betas and we allows patches for otherwise non-functional betas but for complete software such as abandonware we only keep them on BA for the users enjoyment, and also for preserving originals. So we insist that every piece of abandonware is kept in its original form. I.e no folder dumps or pre-installed/pre-patched warez releases, but floppy images and ISO images of original installation media.

So if any of those you listed are in floppy image/ISO image then you are free to upload them, I will go through them and remove any cracks or serials found on them. If they are not then they are not really interesting, I got several GB myself of "warezed" abandonware I could easily upload. But I won't for the reasons I've stated above.

May I also remind many users that many of these abandonwares are still sold through services like Steam. So we will watch what is released, and any game that is uploaded that is still sold on Steam will be held unreleased until it is not available anymore. As long as Steam (and other services) sell the games they are not abandonware, thus not eligible for release on BA.


Ok. No problem at all. I actually didn't upload the "Neverlock '94" program, and didn't crack any game that requires a password/serial to be playable (like X-Wing).

mrpijey wrote:
But if any of you members here has old floppies, games or applications, don't hesitate to dump them and send them up. And ask me if you got any questions regarding a release or format etc.


I still have the CD of the Encarta Encyclopedia '97 and the Encarta Atlas (both of them in Spanish). Are them interesting enough to upload?

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