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 PostPost subject: Threads closing...        Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:32 am 
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Well, I'd have two things to say about this threads closing.
First of all, I don't agree that threads always get closed after a month of inactivity - it just makes whoever wants to make an useful reply in those threads, have to make a new thread about, which, IMO, will eventually cause this forum to be full of duplicate (and even triplicate and quadruplicate) threads, only creating confusion here, because replies to old threads might actually be very relevant.
Second of all, the Custom OS'es section is very inactive, and I'm afraid it has to do with the threads closing - I mean, the people can't even update their projects' threads, just because they're over a month old, even though it's something perfectly legitimate.
And not to mention, that it doesn't stop spam at all, since the spammers will just flood the forum with new threads then, instead of replying to the existing threads - not that there is much spam here in the first place.
I'm sorry, if this thread of mine now might seem inappropriate, or even offensive, but believe me, that wasn't my intention at all. ;)

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:36 am 
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I agree 100% with you, the locking rule is absurd. As you said, it makes it difficult to post a useful reply. Even if the thread doesn't get locked after 1 month for some reason and you post in it, it will be locked after you post. :evil: (i also don't mean to to be offensive... ;) )

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:57 am 
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The lock rule is there for a reason. Topics get unposted in because its dead. Nobody is talking about it anymore. Therefore when someone posts in the topic again, nobody knows what its on about and has to go back through the whole topic to even understand.

Now with a new topic you don't have to do that because if you're interested in it you will be following it.

Another forum I visit does not have this rule but people always get annoyed, especially the moderators, when people bring up an old topic. This is especially true when its a problem from say 2003 then someone posts a possible solution. I guess the author would have given up on this problem a LONG time ago, so leave it alone.

I can understand what you are both saying 100% but I still agree that locking a topic after 1 month of inactivity is a sensible thing to do because it prevents problems for everyone.

I'll have a talk with the mods and see if they think we should lift this rule. We'll keep you informed.

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 8:23 am 
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Well, tpemail also agrees with me about this threads closing, because, if I understood her correctly, she thinks that the rule doesn't suit a community like BETAArchive that much.
And yes, I know that she's not a Moderator, so this is only another opinion that I know, and that I decided to post here. ;)

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 8:24 am 
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OBrasilo wrote:
Well, tpemail also agrees with me about this threads closing, because, if I understood her correctly, she thinks that the rule doesn't suit a community like BETAArchive that much. ;)


Maybe you're right. We should probably "relax" the rule and simply say that we don't mind you posting in topics 1 month old but don't expect much of a response since it is an old/dead topic. Maybe that would be more suitable? At least then its up to other people to try and get back into that topic.

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Andy wrote:
Maybe you're right. We should probably "relax" the rule and simply say that we don't mind you posting in topics 1 month old but don't expect much of a response since it is an old/dead topic. Maybe that would be more suitable? At least then its up to other people to try and get back into that topic.
Alright, I agree with this. ;)

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Lets see what other people think before changing the rule. Remember its a majority vote that wins.

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That sounds like a great rule.

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i agree too.

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I also don't like the rule to close the older topics.

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Allthough I agree that topics shouldn't drag on forever, especially since they become unuseful after a certain amount of time, it's always nice when a topic gets jump-started again when more questions com up. If nothing else, I'd go for the topic becoming locked after a longer period of time, say 3 months. You can't blame Andy for wanting to make the one-month topic lock rule, it's a good way to keep the forums uncluttered and people are less likely to beat a dead horse, so-to-speak.


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Allthough I agree that topics shouldn't drag on forever, especially since they become unuseful after a certain amount of time, it's always nice when a topic gets jump-started again when more questions com up. If nothing else, I'd go for the topic becoming locked after a longer period of time, say 3 months. You can't blame Andy for wanting to make the one-month topic lock rule, it's a good way to keep the forums uncluttered and people are less likely to beat a dead horse, so-to-speak.


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- 4tified: But the clutter is still there. Just look at the countless Windows Neptune threads, for example. Also, as I said, especially in the Custom OS'es sub-forum, people talk about their projects there, and authors should be allowed to update their own threads, even after a long period, because it's something completely legitimate. ;)

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- 4tified: But the clutter is still there. Just look at the countless Windows Neptune threads, for example. Also, as I said, especially in the Custom OS'es sub-forum, people talk about their projects there, and authors should be allowed to update their own threads, even after a long period, because it's something completely legitimate. ;)


That would be an exception to the rule. As are sticky threads.

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There are good and bad to each decision made, I'm leaning more towards leaving the threads open and not locking them. On the other hand, I also can see why the admins would want to lock them after a certain amount of inactivity. Newer posts and threads are what keep the site running... it's easy to reply to everything old, and frankly I've known people to just post useless junk just to get their post count up....a site can't thrive if there are people who just want to take and not give anything in return. Not saying anyone here does that, but it got to that point with OSBA before it went offline.... hundreds of people who just signed up and made a few useless posts just to gain access to the ftp servers so they could leech. Once again, I'd love for the older topics to stay open, but the truth is an eventual lock would be nice (unless its a sticky) to keep leechers and those who don't want to give anything back to the community from finding an easy way in. I'm sure there are lots of people who disagree however...


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I like the new rule, thanks andy!

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Rule now changed. I see no reason for this thread to remain open. If you would like to continue discussion please contact a mod to get it re-opened...

Just kidding :D Not locking it. :P

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Thanks alot :-) Lienency feels nice. Hope this rule doesn't have to get applied again...but with this amount of dedicated folks, I don't think it should be an issue again.

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Thanks alot :-) Lienency feels nice. Hope this rule doesn't have to get applied again...but with this amount of dedicated folks, I don't think it should be an issue again.


I certainly hope not. Just so you know the older topics have been unlocked. :)

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