neptune and 2k

Post by **dirtwarrior** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:34 pm

What are the differences between neptune and 2k? Is it mostly graphics? Is it possible to change 2k into neptune?

Post by **James** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:26 pm

well, um, Neptune is Windows 2000 basically, just without the crazy server things. so you basically running Windows Neptune.....

Post by **intellivision** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:02 am

and a crippled driver system, a bunch of unfinished stuff including a semi functioning firewall...

Post by **dirtwarrior** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 3:19 am

So what would it take to change 2k into neptune besides the graphics?

What would it take to take out the server portion? Would it cripple 2k?

Post by **James** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 7:12 am

Well, Windows 2000 makes you install the server stuff, because it was made for that

Post by **empireum** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:32 am

WildEye001 wrote:Well, Windows 2000 makes you install the server stuff, because it was made for that

Windows 2000 Professional doesn't install any server stuff as it's a workstation OS.

Post by **compact-mac** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:37 pm

empireum wrote:
WildEye001 wrote:Well, Windows 2000 makes you install the server stuff, because it was made for that
Windows 2000 Professional doesn't install any server stuff as it's a workstation OS.

Indeed. Only stupid people use Windows 2000 Professional as a server.

Oh wait, I do

Post by **dirtwarrior** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:40 pm

OK cool. So what would it take to make 2k into neptune?

Post by **compact-mac** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:45 pm

Prehaps firstly discover the main differences between them, and any core DLL's that are different.

And I could try and design a Windows 2000 Home Edition or Windows 2000 Personal bootscreen...

Post by **empireum** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 3:33 pm

Compact-mac wrote:
empireum wrote:
WildEye001 wrote:Well, Windows 2000 makes you install the server stuff, because it was made for that
Windows 2000 Professional doesn't install any server stuff as it's a workstation OS.
Indeed. Only stupid people use Windows 2000 Professional as a server.

Oh wait, I do

You can still use it for server purposes but it has certain limits implemented, such as the maximum number of concurrent connections. Keep in mind that Win2k Server is still quite expensive – and don't get me started on piracy.

Post by **dirtwarrior** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 3:47 pm

Compact-mac wrote:Prehaps firstly discover the main differences between them, and any core DLL's that are different.

And I could try and design a Windows 2000 Home Edition or Windows 2000 Personal bootscreen...

Thank you

Post by **Vista Ultimate R2** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 4:05 pm

This discussion of "server stuff" isn't especially helpful in getting to the differences between 2000 and Neptune - there isn't really any "server stuff" in 2000 Pro that isn't in Neptune. As far as I can see, Neptune is very similar to 2000 Pro, it's such an early beta that all they've done is add a few ideas like the Welcome Screen and the unfinished Activity Centres on to 2000 Pro, and they haven't taken out any features (server-related or otherwise) of Pro like IIS, Group Policy or the ability to join a domain that they would have done if it had been released as 2000 Home.

Post by **compact-mac** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 4:45 pm

dirtwarrior wrote:
Compact-mac wrote:Prehaps firstly discover the main differences between them, and any core DLL's that are different.

And I could try and design a Windows 2000 Home Edition or Windows 2000 Personal bootscreen...
Thank you

NP, here ya go:

That's "Personal Edition", perhaps what the final Neptune would have looked like. Yes, it's based on the Powered bootscreen, from the gallery, because it looks slightly different

Post by **callumh** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 4:48 pm

Nice bootscreen compact-mac
Well done!

Post by **dirtwarrior** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:40 pm

Nice TY. How would I get the welcome screne to work?

Post by **Bender** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:40 pm

empireum wrote:
Compact-mac wrote:
empireum wrote:
WildEye001 wrote:Well, Windows 2000 makes you install the server stuff, because it was made for that
Windows 2000 Professional doesn't install any server stuff as it's a workstation OS.
Indeed. Only stupid people use Windows 2000 Professional as a server.

Oh wait, I do
You can still use it for server purposes but it has certain limits implemented, such as the maximum number of concurrent connections. Keep in mind that Win2k Server is still quite expensive – and don't get me started on piracy.

*cough http://betaarchive.co.uk/forum/viewtopi ... ced+server *

Post by **dirtwarrior** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 3:45 am

Compact-mac wrote:
dirtwarrior wrote:
Compact-mac wrote:Prehaps firstly discover the main differences between them, and any core DLL's that are different.

And I could try and design a Windows 2000 Home Edition or Windows 2000 Personal bootscreen...
Thank you
NP, here ya go:

That's "Personal Edition", perhaps what the final Neptune would have looked like. Yes, it's based on the Powered bootscreen, from the gallery, because it looks slightly different

I am not good with graphics. When I converted it to a 16 color BMP it messed it up. Can you send one in 16 color BMP?

Post by **aimfiend** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:40 pm

neptune got some rough htmled welcome centre
and more than that, it got brandnew logon interface
as long as i ve been using it , i found it rather unstable and much imcompatible with many of apps i use

Post by **jimmsta** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:09 pm

/derail
Let's not forget that the majority of the activity centers in Neptune are a big part of the UI of Windows XP - Take a look at the 'new' start menu in XP - then take a look at one of the activity centers in Neptune - the second column, containing the "My Documents, Control Panel", etc. is ripped from Neptune's activity center, and placed in an easier-to-access location. Microsoft's UI designers took what Neptune had started with, and made it more accessible.

Even now, Vista is closer to the UI that Neptune was headed for - complex HTML/JavaScript pages (now mostly xml-based) embedded within Explorer and various other UI components (sidebar).

So, was Neptune merged with Odyssey to create XP? Yes, the UI was certainly merged into another project, which came to eventually be known as Whistler.
/end derail

Post by **dirtwarrior** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:46 pm

Is it easily done to take the Odyssey parts out of whistler/xp and get back to what neptune was headed for?
Which one should be modded if any whistler or xp? If whistler which build?

Post by **compact-mac** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 2:30 pm

dirtwarrior wrote:
Compact-mac wrote:
dirtwarrior wrote:
Compact-mac wrote:Prehaps firstly discover the main differences between them, and any core DLL's that are different.

And I could try and design a Windows 2000 Home Edition or Windows 2000 Personal bootscreen...
Thank you
NP, here ya go:

That's "Personal Edition", perhaps what the final Neptune would have looked like. Yes, it's based on the Powered bootscreen, from the gallery, because it looks slightly different
I am not good with graphics. When I converted it to a 16 color BMP it messed it up. Can you send one in 16 color BMP?

Sorry bout that mt, ill get one now...

Post by **compact-mac** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:21 pm

Compact-mac wrote:
dirtwarrior wrote:
Compact-mac wrote:
dirtwarrior wrote:
Compact-mac wrote:Prehaps firstly discover the main differences between them, and any core DLL's that are different.

And I could try and design a Windows 2000 Home Edition or Windows 2000 Personal bootscreen...
Thank you
NP, here ya go:

That's "Personal Edition", perhaps what the final Neptune would have looked like. Yes, it's based on the Powered bootscreen, from the gallery, because it looks slightly different
I am not good with graphics. When I converted it to a 16 color BMP it messed it up. Can you send one in 16 color BMP?
Sorry bout that mt, ill get one now...

http://static.compact-mac.co.uk

Post by **dirtwarrior** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:37 pm

I saw you other work. It is amazing

Post by **compact-mac** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:29 pm

dirtwarrior wrote:I saw you other work. It is amazing

Actually those arent mine they are for my video gallery...

However I am working on a video, Random Nothingness II (part I is out) and it is actually nearly done

Post by **Kanashi** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:22 pm

Any other news on this, besides the boot screen?