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Windows 95 title bars

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Hi

Was there any mod which would let user to set gradient bar for every window in Windows 95 just like in Win98?

I know there were applications using their own set (especially navy to black) and it was actually possible to render it back then.
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KNN wrote:Hi

Was there any mod which would let user to set gradient bar for every window in Windows 95 just like in Win98?

I know there were applications using their own set (especially navy to black) and it was actually possible to render it back then.
Not that I know of. This possibility was introduced by Windows 98.

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Yeah, still it is possible in Win95 to draw it.
web.archive.org/web/19980415083048/http://www.cetussoft.com:80/cwordpad.zip
Here is a link to the app which has such feature.
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KNN wrote:Yeah, still it is possible in Win95 to draw it.
web.archive.org/web/19980415083048/http://www.cetussoft.com:80/cwordpad.zip
Here is a link to the app which has such feature.
Pretty much any OS can draw a gradient to the screen, but if the code isn't there in the shell, then there's just not gonna be a way to do it without porting something over from a shell that has this functionality.

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I thought such mod exist already or existed somewhere, like based on old beta build where it was going to be implemented etc.
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Didn't Office 95 have a gradient on Windows 95?
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Overdoze wrote:Didn't Office 95 have a gradient on Windows 95?
I understood the question to be "I know some Win95 applications draw gradient title bars, so is this a built-in capability of Windows 95?".

The answer is "no". If your Win95 app wants a gradient title bar, it must draw it by itself, just like Office 95 apps did.

(which is why, if you run Office 95 on a recent version of Windows, title bars are drawn quite horridly)

EDIT: see e.g. https://youtu.be/11dtTYKcYqo?t=285

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Is that even possible to install Office 95 on a modern version of Windows NT like Vista, 7, or 8.x?

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gtgamer468 wrote:Is that even possible to install Office 95 on a modern version of Windows NT like Vista, 7, or 8.x?
Yes, but it ain't pretty. Sometimes you come across various glitches.
Surprisingly enough, 16 bit Windows apps, even those designed for Windows 1.x/2.x, seem to create few problems.

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xelloss wrote:
Overdoze wrote:Didn't Office 95 have a gradient on Windows 95?
I understood the question to be "I know some Win95 applications draw gradient title bars, so is this a built-in capability of Windows 95?".

The answer is "no". If your Win95 app wants a gradient title bar, it must draw it by itself, just like Office 95 apps did.

(which is why, if you run Office 95 on a recent version of Windows, title bars are drawn quite horridly)

EDIT: see e.g. https://youtu.be/11dtTYKcYqo?t=285
gtgamer468 wrote:Is that even possible to install Office 95 on a modern version of Windows NT like Vista, 7, or 8.x?
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KNN wrote:I thought such mod exist already or existed somewhere, like based on old beta build where it was going to be implemented etc.
Someone also references that collection of beta 98 dlls that draws gradients, no download link was mentioned:
www.[/]betaarchive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30811
I think the first link below is based off of Memphis, and could be what you are looking for. Here's a mirror:
drive.[/]google.com/open?id=1Z3ld3bmRg15peEdEdegxoiEFYhCPIHsK

Other apps found with a quick Google Search:
www.[/]win3x.org/win3board/viewtopic.php?t=3742&language=en
www.[/]codeguru.com/cpp/misc/misc/titlebar/article.php/c387/Win98-like-Gradient-Caption-Bar.htm
web.[/]archive.org/web/20050628075510/http://www.canadiancontent.net:80/tech/ ... anger.html
web.[/]archive.org/web/20050328170340/http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/ ... wnload.htm
web.[/]archive.org/web/20010418173819/http://radek.storm.com.pl:80/

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From my own experiments done years ago, I can tell you that the gradients are done by USER.EXE, and you can't replace it with a Windows 98 beta one, as you'd then have to replace essentially the entire kernel (so a lot of .EXE's and .DLL's) with a Windows 98 beta one.
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Interesting, I'll find out if any of the cosmetic mods out there actually work and report back!

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