Adobe Creative Cloud is NO GOOD!

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ibmpcat5170
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Adobe Creative Cloud is NO GOOD!

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Adobe (Systems), Inc. has gone too far with their subscription-only licensing model,
so it's time for that company to restart the development of Creative Suite 7!

But in order for that to happen in the future, someone must start a petition in Change.org...
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  • MacWrite/MacPaint 1.0 (Apple Computer • 1984) [Applications]
  • MacWrite 2.2/MacPaint 1.3 (Apple Computer • 1984) [Applications]
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Thank you for this exciting rant!

Subscription models are superior to one-off licenses. They are obviously easier to use, since you just pay regularly for the service and it makes sure that you are up to date. You no longer have to go through Adobe customer service if you wanted to switch your license to a different platform, since the subscription is platform-agnostic! Not to mention that the subscription offers more benefits. It's Creative Cloud after all.

And it is quite more favorable. The CC photography plan is $9.99 per month. Photoshop CS6 cost $699 ($999 for Extended, which is more equivalent to the CC version). That is 70 months (or 100) of Photoshop, but you don't get stuck on a single version for 6 or 8 years and have access to Lightroom, 20 GB of cloud storage, and some other stuff! Another comparison: $52.99 monthly for the all apps plan, $2599 for CS6 Master Collection. That's 50 months.
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AlphaBeta wrote: Subscription models are superior to one-off licenses.
For software that constantly changes like the CC suite, sure. But for more "static" programs, the option of a lifetime license for a specific major version makes sense.

I do agree that in this case a subscription model really is the way to go.
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AlphaBeta: In the future, please refrain from posting immature image macros in response to user threads. Thanks.
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To be fair, I can see why a subscription model is annoying. Sure, you get new features, but I think most of them wouldn't care much and would just want on that 'works'.
It's the same with Office - I think 90 - 95% of users will be just as fine with Office 2010 rather than going for Office 365...

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x010 wrote:To be fair, I can see why a subscription model is annoying. Sure, you get new features, but I think most of them wouldn't care much and would just want on that 'works'.
It's the same with Office - I think 90 - 95% of users will be just as fine with Office 2010 rather than going for Office 365...
Don't forget to mention how Adobe sometimes likes to constantly increase their subscription payments. I remember back in 2017, Creative Cloud only costed $19 a month, but two years later, it went up to $29 a month. I don't use Adobe, but I know about that because I saw it on their website. Sometimes I find that a bit wrong :?

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x010 wrote:To be fair, I can see why a subscription model is annoying. Sure, you get new features, but I think most of them wouldn't care much and would just want on that 'works'.
It's the same with Office - I think 90 - 95% of users will be just as fine with Office 2010 rather than going for Office 365...
Heh, I'm fine with Office 2003 and 2007. Newer versions made office so bloated running 2016 on a Core 2 is as slow as molasses.
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There was a petition for Adobe to restart the development of Creative Suite 7 here, but it failed miserably.
My most wanted Macintosh abandonwares from original media are:
  • System .97 Finder 1.0 (Apple Computer • 1984) [Operating System]
  • MacWrite/MacPaint 1.0 (Apple Computer • 1984) [Applications]
  • MacWrite 2.2/MacPaint 1.3 (Apple Computer • 1984) [Applications]
  • System 4.0 Finder 5.4 with System Tools Disk (Apple Computer • 1987) [Operating System]

Whoever has any of these, please contribute them!

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There must be a way to make Adobe Inc. restart the development of Creative Suite 7!
My most wanted Macintosh abandonwares from original media are:
  • System .97 Finder 1.0 (Apple Computer • 1984) [Operating System]
  • MacWrite/MacPaint 1.0 (Apple Computer • 1984) [Applications]
  • MacWrite 2.2/MacPaint 1.3 (Apple Computer • 1984) [Applications]
  • System 4.0 Finder 5.4 with System Tools Disk (Apple Computer • 1987) [Operating System]

Whoever has any of these, please contribute them!

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ibmpcat5170 wrote:There must be a way to make Adobe Inc. restart the development of Creative Suite 7!
There is not. It will never happen, since it wouldn't make any business sense whatsoever.
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If we assume that most users are company users anyway, then a subscription model makes actually a lot of sense. It's the endless CapEx vs. OpEx debate. And from my experience, more and more companies try to shift more and more to OpEx because it's cheaper and easier for them.

I agree that for a few home users it's less than ideal, but the money is in companies, and for them it makes sense as AlphaBeta already calculated above
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