Is there a Start Screen in Windows 8 7850?

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Is there a Start Screen in Windows 8 7850?

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There's a lot of prove that there's a start screen here, but I tried to unlock it and failed:
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In the RTM, the "Enabled" key is set to 1, so I set it to 1 in 7850 too, but had no effect...
Apparently, Start Screen is in twinui.dll.
I also managed to activate and de-timebomb it in hope it will unlock the Start Screen using a program found on a torrent(don't ask for the link).
So how can I enable it?

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You can't.
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Re: Is there a Start Screen in Windows 8 7850?

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We don't have shsxs.dll for anything before 8102 (WDP).

There might be a start screen, but this early it was all implemented in shsxs.dll.

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Re: Is there a Start Screen in Windows 8 7850?

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Probably not - with the screen being so early in development it won't have been in any of the builds.

By the way, I know I can't ask for a link but can you tell me the name of the program you used to de-timebomb this build?
... what are you looking at?

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Re: Is there a Start Screen in Windows 8 7850?

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Ooops I was thinking start menu, not start page when you asked about start screen.
Disregard my yes vote...

Edit: Vote changed, thanks for the tip rhobariii
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Re: Is there a Start Screen in Windows 8 7850?

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viper wrote:Ooops I was thinking start menu, not start page when you asked about start screen.
Disregard my yes vote...
You can change it...

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Re: Is there a Start Screen in Windows 8 7850?

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Again and again, if this build has it(which probably yes), it was optional for Microsoft Testers(which had to access a Microsoft server to install it) because it was on early stages of development and the major part of the Start Page and other Modern UI stuff, was on SHSXS.DLL at this point, which never leaked. and without it you can't force it because on early build's like this twinui.dll is not the "all" Modern UI, in fact is not too much but already something even more recente builds like 7989 don't have it fully. Internet rumors point that Modern UI started to be available at 802x in the winmain branch. But these are just rumors. You can try to see what twinui.dll already contained at this point but the chances of getting something more than what was found are really low.

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I highly doubt it, UI doesn't change much during the early Alphas
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if there are missing components, you can't claim anything for sure alpha or not
see how win7 had early taskbar changed

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wasabilee wrote:if there are missing components, you can't claim anything for sure alpha or not
see how win7 had early taskbar changed
The taskbar in Windows 7 isn't that big of a change.
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you must be joking

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esc1010 wrote:
wasabilee wrote:if there are missing components, you can't claim anything for sure alpha or not
see how win7 had early taskbar changed
The taskbar in Windows 7 isn't that big of a change.
Just compare Vista and 7 rtm taskbars. Quite a change, no?
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don't mind rtm, the M2 (6608) already had big change + new shell for file manager

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Re: Is there a Start Screen in Windows 8 7850?

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It doesn't mean that it doesn't have Start Screen just because it's an early build (but not so early as that), you just don't see it because it is being built and it's not finished yet and more you don't have access to files that unlock it, I'm pretty sure that at this point of development the Start Screen even with the proper files to unlock it won't show up, because it's being built at this point, but the Modern UI API (very protoptical) is already there. In later builds like final M2 builds it may show up with the proper files, but as Microsoft wanted to make this a confidential thing, you needed to access their private servers to get something if you were a tester or a Microsoft Employee back then.

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Eggs6131 wrote:Probably not - with the screen being so early in development it won't have been in any of the builds.

By the way, I know I can't ask for a link but can you tell me the name of the program you used to de-timebomb this build?
'Windows 8 7850 KMS activator and Timebomb remover v 0.9.4.'

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Re: Is there a Start Screen in Windows 8 7850?

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I think not, metro was "released" near to the consumer preview, maybe some resources on a dll, but not

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Re: Is there a Start Screen in Windows 8 7850?

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Timebomb is broken in 7850, so you can install this build without changing the BIOS date.
Anyway, is there any way to port the explorer.exe from 7850 to Windows 7 (7600/7601) in order to get the usertile working on Windows 7?
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Re: Is there a Start Screen in Windows 8 7850?

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rafaelgs wrote:Timebomb is broken in 7850, so you can install this build without changing the BIOS date.
Anyway, is there any way to port the explorer.exe from 7850 to Windows 7 (7600/7601) in order to get the usertile working on Windows 7?
No, the usertitle is in twinui.dll, so you must port twinui.dll for usertitle to work, which can't be done.

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Re: Is there a Start Screen in Windows 8 7850?

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It most likely CAN be done. The question is how much effort are you willing to put into it.
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