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 PostPost subject: PCE (IBM PC-5150) emulator supports Copy Protected Image        Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:41 am 
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PCE is updated to version 20110218-b6d41ac a few days ago.
PCE is world's first IBM PC 5150 emulator supports Copy Protected Disk Image via Int13.
No emulator supports Copy Protected Disk image.
Before updated PCE version 20100920-36bf765, most of PC emulator (DOSBOX / Virtual PC / PCE / MESS / etc.) supports standard Disk Image and Teledisk Image in MESS.
Copy protected track / sector doesn't be supported in all PC related emulator.
It can't be run copy protected disk image without crack or conversion to standard disk image.
But now, many of copy protected is dumped correctly and run in PCE emulator without
crack or modified except copy protection with Hard Lock, Laser burned hole on disk.

I'm collecting many of copy protected programs (mainly PC-Booter / DOS Games with 5.25" 1D/2D format) and dumps them with teledisk 2.1x.

Not all teledisk can't be dumped correctly.
A few of games are dumped by FDA / Imgdisk.
But most of games (over 80% of mines) can be dumped by Teledisk.

If anyone is interested in dumping copy protected disks and run on emulator without cracking, I can help you.


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 PostPost subject: Re: PCE (IBM PC-5150) emulator supports Copy Protected Image        Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:05 pm 
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By PCE, do you mean PCem? I haven't heard of PCE before.

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By PCE, do you mean PCem? I haven't heard of PCE before.

Google is your friend: http://www.google.com/search?q=pce&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:unofficial&client=iceweasel-a#sclient=psy&hl=en&client=iceweasel-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB%3Aunofficial&source=hp&q=pce%2Bemulator&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&fp=aea6c2f78256e21c

Third result: http://www.hampa.ch/pce/

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Yeah, I've downloaded it already, after ibmpc5150 directed it to me on a different thread. Thanks anyway!

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In my opinion PCem is easier to use as I've tried this emulator but it was difficult to me.

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In my opinion PCem is easier to use as I've tried this emulator but it was difficult to me.

Yeah. But I wish PCem supported full-screen mode, though.

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In my opinion PCem is easier to use as I've tried this emulator but it was difficult to me.

Yeah. But I wish PCem supported full-screen mode, though.


There's no point; remember, it emulates PCs from the 1980s, their screen sizes were around 640x380 or something. The software from that time is the only software that will run on the emulator, and that software did not support big screen sizes simply because they didn't exist. Fullscreen mode on PCem would look pretty crappy.

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FoobyZeeky wrote:
marktuson wrote:
TheCollector1988 wrote:
In my opinion PCem is easier to use as I've tried this emulator but it was difficult to me.

Yeah. But I wish PCem supported full-screen mode, though.


There's no point; remember, it emulates PCs from the 1980s, their screen sizes were around 640x380 or something. The software from that time is the only software that will run on the emulator, and that software did not support big screen sizes simply because they didn't exist. Fullscreen mode on PCem would look pretty crappy.

Yeah, I know, but when I'm playing my ancient DOS games or looking at ancient copies of Windows, I want to be able to do it full-screen. Also, locking out the Windows keys (Start, alt-tab, ctrl-esc, ctrl-alt-delete, &c) would be a good idea for both QEMU and PCem.

Oh, and I want PCem for Linux, too :D

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marktuson wrote:
FoobyZeeky wrote:
marktuson wrote:
TheCollector1988 wrote:
In my opinion PCem is easier to use as I've tried this emulator but it was difficult to me.

Yeah. But I wish PCem supported full-screen mode, though.


There's no point; remember, it emulates PCs from the 1980s, their screen sizes were around 640x380 or something. The software from that time is the only software that will run on the emulator, and that software did not support big screen sizes simply because they didn't exist. Fullscreen mode on PCem would look pretty crappy.

Yeah, I know, but when I'm playing my ancient DOS games or looking at ancient copies of Windows, I want to be able to do it full-screen. Also, locking out the Windows keys (Start, alt-tab, ctrl-esc, ctrl-alt-delete, &c) would be a good idea for both QEMU and PCem.

Oh, and I want PCem for Linux, too :D


Doesn't PCem work in Wine?

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 PostPost subject: Re: PCE (IBM PC-5150) emulator supports Copy Protected Image        Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:15 pm 
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To run copy protected Disk Image (example : .td0), you must edit the follwing sentence in pce-ibmpc.cfg as follows.


# Map PCE drives to FDC drives. FDC drives that have no PCE
# drive assigned to them will be handled by the PCE int 13
# handler.
#drive0 = 0x00
drive1 = 0x01
drive2 = 0x02
drive3 = 0x03


#drive0 = 0x00
-->
drive0 = 0x00
(Delete #)

If not, PCE doesn't implement copy protected sector via INT13.


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 PostPost subject: Re: PCE (IBM PC-5150) emulator supports Copy Protected Image        Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:34 pm 
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By the way, do you know how to get 160 KB disk images (e.g. PC-DOS 1.0) to boot in PCE? I can't get any emulators, virtual machines, or other software to read 160 KB disk images, but apparently PCE can. Do you know how to get 'em to work?

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FoobyZeeky wrote:
By the way, do you know how to get 160 KB disk images (e.g. PC-DOS 1.0) to boot in PCE? I can't get any emulators, virtual machines, or other software to read 160 KB disk images, but apparently PCE can. Do you know how to get 'em to work?



1.Extract pce emulator & images on pce folder.
(Example, I put the emulator on D:\pce folder)
2.You must copy PC-DOS 1.00 image as drv_00.img on pce folder.
Then run the following command instead of pce-ibmpc.bat

bin\pce-ibmpc.exe -v -c pce-ibmpc.cfg -l pce-ibmpc.log -g vga -r -b 0

I made booter.bat as follows to run easily.

If pce boots IBM-PC DOS 1.00 successfully, you can see the following message.

Enter today's date (m-d-y):

I input as follows.

02-20-2011


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ibmpc5150 wrote:
FoobyZeeky wrote:
By the way, do you know how to get 160 KB disk images (e.g. PC-DOS 1.0) to boot in PCE? I can't get any emulators, virtual machines, or other software to read 160 KB disk images, but apparently PCE can. Do you know how to get 'em to work?



1.Extract pce emulator & images on pce folder.
(Example, I put the emulator on D:\pce folder)
2.You must copy PC-DOS 1.00 image as drv_00.img on pce folder.
Then run the following command instead of pce-ibmpc.bat

bin\pce-ibmpc.exe -v -c pce-ibmpc.cfg -l pce-ibmpc.log -g vga -r -b 0

I made booter.bat as follows to run easily.

If pce boots IBM-PC DOS 1.00 successfully, you can see the following message.

Enter today's date (m-d-y):

I input as follows.

02-20-2011


Ah, thanks. I did something similar before (editing the config file to boot from the floppy, and putting the PC-DOS floppy into the PCE directory), but it didn't work. It worked with your method of using a different command to run the EXE though, thanks!

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FoobyZeeky wrote:
By the way, do you know how to get 160 KB disk images (e.g. PC-DOS 1.0) to boot in PCE? I can't get any emulators, virtual machines, or other software to read 160 KB disk images, but apparently PCE can. Do you know how to get 'em to work?

try ScriptPC.


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 PostPost subject: Re: PCE (IBM PC-5150) emulator supports Copy Protected Image        Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:08 am 
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Something interesting about PCE: it emulates 8086/80186 only, with XMS emulation in its own BIOS extension.... How can applications use XMS memory with 8086 CPU?

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Who have the Windows 3.0 driver for Wyse WY-700?


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Who have the Windows 3.0 driver for Wyse WY-700?


http://driverzone.com/device.php?id=67089

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windows 3.0 drivers for the WY-700 video card


EDIT: Scratch that, the download link leads to some other site...

EDIT 2: I think this is what you're looking for... ftp://files.chatnfiles.com/WinSitedotco ... index.html

EDIT 3: Yes, that is what you're looking for, the readme file inside says it's for Windows 3.0.

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FoobyZeeky wrote:
yksoft1 wrote:
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Who have the Windows 3.0 driver for Wyse WY-700?


EDIT 2: I think this is what you're looking for... ftp://files.chatnfiles.com/WinSitedotco ... index.html

EDIT 3: Yes, that is what you're looking for, the readme file inside says it's for Windows 3.0.


Thanks very much!
I'm curious to see how 1280x800 WSVGA resolution worked before 1990...


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The pixels probably weren't square (like they aren't on 640x200 CGA).


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 PostPost subject: Re: PCE (IBM PC-5150) emulator supports Copy Protected Image        Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:11 pm 
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The pixels probably weren't square (like they aren't on 640x200 CGA).

Indeed.
http://books.google.com/books?id=Cj8EAA ... age&q=Wyse WY-700&f=false

And Wyse still have a page for WY-700 system:
http://www.wyse.com/service/support/kba ... 3.asp?Q=14


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