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 PostPost subject: Re: MS-DOS OEMs you probably never heard of...        Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:13 am 
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This KB article mentions some MS/PC-DOS OEMs that I never heard of before... So here's the ones we don't have:

Wang 2.11


I've got a Wang PC with MSDOS 2.01:

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(yes, the default prompt is A: (as Microsoft originally wanted) rather than A> (which IBM insisted on). And it uses - for the option character and / for the directory separator).

Will this boot on other PC-compatibles?


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 PostPost subject: Re: MS-DOS OEMs you probably never heard of...        Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:07 am 
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Probably not. I'd use an emulator...

@Kernel86: I'd definetly be interested in it. ;)

EDIT: Just noticed we do have Tandy MS-DOS 3.30, so it's been removed from the "Don't have" list. ;)

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 PostPost subject: Re: MS-DOS OEMs you probably never heard of...        Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:55 pm 
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Probably not. I'd use an emulator...

@Kernel86: I'd definetly be interested in it. ;)

EDIT: Just noticed we do have Tandy MS-DOS 3.30, so it's been removed from the "Don't have" list. ;)

I mean is this only on those Wang PCs or works on other PC compatibles.


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 PostPost subject: Re: MS-DOS OEMs you probably never heard of...        Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:56 pm 
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Probably not. I'd use an emulator...

@Kernel86: I'd definetly be interested in it. ;)

EDIT: Just noticed we do have Tandy MS-DOS 3.30, so it's been removed from the "Don't have" list. ;)

I mean is this only on those Wang PCs or works on other PC compatibles.


the original Wang PC is not IBM compatible, so, it is only for those Wang PCs from the early 1980s.

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 PostPost subject: Re: MS-DOS OEMs you probably never heard of...        Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:53 am 
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I've got a disk with a Commodore branded MS-DOS 3.30 here, which doesn't seem to be listed in the Wiki. No clue about the FTP as I don't have access yet.

However, It's not a disk set to install it for some reason. It's just a single floppy which is bootable and contains a bunch of Commodore PC specific tools (to change BIOS settings and set the CPU speed (6, 8, 12MHz) etc.), some drivers (for example for the ATI EGA Wonder 800+ graphics card that came with the system) and GW Basic 3.22. I don't recall ever owning any additional DOS disks for that PC, although it was definitely installed on the HDD (including the graphics card utilities etc.).

It's in German and came with a Commodore PC30-III (286 12MHz, 640KB RAM, a 20MB Tandon/WD HDD and aforementioned ATI EGA Wonder 800+). The PC30 III seems to have been a budget version of the PC40 III, having less RAM (640KB instead of 1MB) and EGA graphics instead of VGA. Shared the same motherboard though.
I made an image of the disk with rawwritewin, but I'm unsure where to upload it, as externally hosted stuff is not allowed according to the rules?!
I've got my own server that I could put it on if need be (to avoid filelockers like rapidshare etc.)

It does boot in VMWare. Photo of the disk and some VMWare screenshots below.

Some notes:
- after booting, it will have "^@" entered at the command prompt (not sure why)
- booting off of the real (original) disk sounds suspiciously like it has quite a bit of trouble accessing it, despite booting (and imaging) with no problem
- pretty much all files are dated either late 1988 or early to mid 1989
- it appears that the folder for the graphics card ("EGA") has drivers for Windows 1.03, 1.04, 2.03 and Windows 286/2.10, including custom bootup logos. Neat, but pointless in this context.

Booted in VMWare
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Commodore Setup utility
http://www.betaarchive.com/imageupload/2012-06/1338953545.or.43467.jpg

The disk itself
http://www.betaarchive.com/imageupload/2012-06/1338953563.or.11057.jpg

On the top side of the disk (the one you'd see if the disk was in a diskette box) there's just a basic list of what's on there and what seems like a part number, which is "317814-01".


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 PostPost subject: Re: MS-DOS OEMs you probably never heard of...        Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:54 pm 
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Thanks for sharing. IIRC there has been an english Commodore OEM version offered here once, but there was no actual difference between that and the MS one...

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I've got a disk with a Commodore branded MS-DOS 3.30 here, which doesn't seem to be listed in the Wiki. No clue about the FTP as I don't have access yet.

However, It's not a disk set to install it for some reason. It's just a single floppy which is bootable and contains a bunch of Commodore PC specific tools (to change BIOS settings and set the CPU speed (6, 8, 12MHz) etc.), some drivers (for example for the ATI EGA Wonder 800+ graphics card that came with the system) and GW Basic 3.22. I don't recall ever owning any additional DOS disks for that PC, although it was definitely installed on the HDD (including the graphics card utilities etc.).

It's in German and came with a Commodore PC30-III (286 12MHz, 640KB RAM, a 20MB Tandon/WD HDD and aforementioned ATI EGA Wonder 800+). The PC30 III seems to have been a budget version of the PC40 III, having less RAM (640KB instead of 1MB) and EGA graphics instead of VGA. Shared the same motherboard though.
I made an image of the disk with rawwritewin, but I'm unsure where to upload it, as externally hosted stuff is not allowed according to the rules?!
I've got my own server that I could put it on if need be (to avoid filelockers like rapidshare etc.)

It does boot in VMWare. Photo of the disk and some VMWare screenshots below.

Some notes:
- after booting, it will have "^@" entered at the command prompt (not sure why)
- booting off of the real (original) disk sounds suspiciously like it has quite a bit of trouble accessing it, despite booting (and imaging) with no problem
- pretty much all files are dated either late 1988 or early to mid 1989
- it appears that the folder for the graphics card ("EGA") has drivers for Windows 1.03, 1.04, 2.03 and Windows 286/2.10, including custom bootup logos. Neat, but pointless in this context.

Booted in VMWare
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Commodore Setup utility
http://www.betaarchive.com/imageupload/2012-06/1338953545.or.43467.jpg

The disk itself
http://www.betaarchive.com/imageupload/2012-06/1338953563.or.11057.jpg

On the top side of the disk (the one you'd see if the disk was in a diskette box) there's just a basic list of what's on there and what seems like a part number, which is "317814-01".


You can upload even without access, you just can't download at the moment, also, nice release, another one for my collection :)

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 PostPost subject: Re: MS-DOS OEMs you probably never heard of...        Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:25 pm 
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You can upload even without access, you just can't download at the moment, also, nice release, another one for my collection :)

I don't think so? When I click on "FTP Servers" in the navigation bar, all I get is an error message about not having the correct privileges to access that page, so I can't get to the FTP details to upload something.

Anyways.. I've plonked it onto my server if anyone wants it. Standard .img file (made with rawwritewin). Nothing special.
http://91.121.194.115:81/betaarchive/Co ... OS_3.3.img

DOS itself is in German, but everything else (as far as I can tell) is in English. To get the forward slash in a VM or on a real PC (for dir /p for example), use shift+7.

If there's anything wrong with posting this, just say something and I'll remove the file from the server. No biggie :)


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 PostPost subject: Re: MS-DOS OEMs you probably never heard of...        Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:59 pm 
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It's OK, thanks for sharing... ;) Perhaps you got any other OEM releases of MS-DOS/Windows?

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 PostPost subject: Re: MS-DOS OEMs you probably never heard of...        Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:13 am 
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Not that I know of. And even if something's hiding in a CD/floppy box somewhere, it's probably so common that everyone on here has a copy already ;)

I do have some beta/RC stuff, for example .net Server 2003 EE RC2 (3718) in German, but I'm guessing it's already on the FTP as it's not particularly rare or anything.
A Win98FE Update CD in German that someone requested a while back is also floating around here, but I can't PM/Email that guy yet (I assume it's because of the first 3 posts which have to be approved?)

Or something like this, which looks really badly scratched but still works.
http://www.betaarchive.com/imageupload/2012-06/1339110313.or.12647.jpg
http://www.betaarchive.com/imageupload/2012-06/1339110396.or.86634.jpg

Or how about a patience test? :D
http://www.betaarchive.com/imageupload/2012-06/1339110501.or.9482.jpg

Allright.. enough off-topic talk for now :P


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 PostPost subject: Re: MS-DOS OEMs you probably never heard of...        Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:31 am 
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What is the last one exactly? Is it some OEM beta build of Windows 95 in the German language?

Anyway, if it's possible, it would be greatly appreciated if you could at least post some screenshots from all of those builds if it's possible, and also possibly uploaded them here once you get Advanced Member access, if we don't already have them, that is.

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 PostPost subject: Re: MS-DOS OEMs you probably never heard of...        Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:45 am 
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I'm actually not 100% sure. It's a Win95 floppy set (the original version, not even "A"). It came with an old Toshiba 486DX4 100 laptop I bought on ebay half a decade ago, but it's not a Toshiba OEM version.
Thing is that the number of disks is unusually high (31 disks + bootdisk), and most floppy versions of Win95 that I've seen came on non-branded disks (unlike mine, labelled as boeder). Also, on the versions I've seen on ebay recently, the label/sticker was the other way around (readable when the write protect tabs are at the top, not the bottom).
Not sure if it's a bootleg version or not. The labels look too good for that (quality wise) and they're all aligned perfectly (in exactly the same position on all disks).

I've got a screenshot of the .net Server 2003 install handy, as I installed it in a VM yesterday because I didn't write what build it was (or even the key) onto the CD. Stupid move.. lol
http://www.betaarchive.com/imageupload/2012-06/1339125682.or.64408.jpg
(edit: looks like the image uploader compressed the sh*t out of this screenshot. The file I uploaded wasn't grainy (jpg compression artifacts) at all)

I also tried installing the Vista FebCTP versions (32/64Bit) mainly to find out what build they are, but they both get stuck in WinPE for some reason (just the background image with the mouse cursor ; after 5mins of absolutely nothing happening and no disk activity, I gave up). Looks like I'll have to try it on real hardware some day..


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 PostPost subject: Re: MS-DOS OEMs you probably never heard of...        Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:56 pm 
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There is also Shi Tec (dynabyte) (Dutch) MS-DOS 5.00 (25-07-1991), 6.00, 6.20. The images are mostly the same as the original Microsoft image.

Image reference here (that floppy on the right side with gray/red logo).


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 PostPost subject: Re: MS-DOS OEMs you probably never heard of...        Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:38 pm 
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There is also MS-DOS 2.11 for the NEC APC (Advanced Personal Computer):
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unfortunately doesn't start completely on MESS

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If anyone's interested, I have the OAKs (OEM Adaptation Kit) for MS DOS 3.3 and 6.22, and full leaked source for 6.0. Let me know if anyone wants these, as I don't know what is currently on the FTP and what isn't.


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If anyone's interested, I have the OAKs (OEM Adaptation Kit) for MS DOS 3.3 and 6.22,
sounds interesting, me wants these

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No rights to upload to the FTP, so http://verhydndrum.netai.net/Projects/OSArchives/MS-DOS-OAKs.tgz


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There is also MS-DOS 2.11 for the NEC APC (Advanced Personal Computer):
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unfortunately doesn't start completely on MESS
With the Latest Patch, MS-Dos 2.11 starts:

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I uploaded it to the FTP

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