Post subject: Re: Videos of COMDEX 1983 (More Early Windows!) Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 2:32 am
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Well, I looked at the video, and above the display was the "Microsoft Windows" product name, so by this point, the project had already been renamed from "Interface Manager" to "Windows", so the earlier release must be earlier than Fall/Early Winter (September-December) 1983.
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Post subject: Re: Videos of COMDEX 1983 (More Early Windows!) Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 6:56 pm
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This is a preliminary logo for Windows 1.0 from COMDEX 1983:
As you can see, the name was already changed from "Interface Manager" to "Windows". There are screenshots of Interface Manager from an old BYTE Magazine from December 1983, but the question still remains, when was that build made? My guess is 1982 or early 1983.
Post subject: Re: Videos of COMDEX 1983 (More Early Windows!) Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 2:08 am
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Given the fact that the date shown for Comdex in '83 was November 23, 1983, and the screenshots from BYTE have Basic dated May of 1983, I'm going to deduce that the build of IM/Windows shown to BYTE was from May of '83, and the Comdex build was a later version (*Especially since the 'session' bar doesn't appear in the BYTE screenshots, but is shown throughout the demo at Comdex. Also, the earlier build has the arrows at the bottom right corner of every window, whereas the build shown at Comdex has all the window controls 'pop-under' the title bar. Edit: Also, note that the Window menu controls were separate from the individual windows in the BYTE preview, but at Comdex, individual windows had individual menu controls.
This to me shows that the re-branding to Windows included several interface changes in a short amount of time.
Very interesting stuff. Well worth the solid hour of video linked in the OP.
Post subject: Re: Videos of COMDEX 1983 (More Early Windows!) Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 9:04 am
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The last machine is an Apple IIe with an MS expansion card containing PC ICs. I have read from an Apple Mac team member, that at the time MS was working on Office, they asked Apple a lot of questions about the GUI code and private stuctures and routines.
Post subject: Re: Videos of COMDEX 1983 (More Early Windows!) Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:33 am
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Hello I am making some little private research about Windows 1.0(pretty amateurish one, but hey - it's just a hobby). I am aware that I'm bumping an old thread, but this topic is highly interesting to me, so I decided to give it a try. Maybe someone will contribute
There are screenshots of Interface Manager from an old BYTE Magazine from December 1983, but the question still remains, when was that build made? My guess is 1982 or early 1983.
I'd like to point out that BYTE is not calling the program from screenshots "Interface Manager", but "Windows". Of course, the name could be changed after the screenshots were made, but I doubt it. Also, the build from COMDEX is newer than the build from BYTE, that's certain. http://toastytech.com/guis/win19832.html
(In fact, Microsoft's own standard window has changed since these photos were taken. The latest version provides a question mark on the right part of the title bar. Selecting the question mark brings help information. If you put the cursor on the title itself, it is replaced by little pictures that represent what you can do with the window. The new version also includes a status line at the top of the screen and an area for icons at the bottom.)
You can see the question mark on Comdex photos. At least I guess so. So the build from BYTE is already called Windows(made after may, but before November, I think) and it's older than the Comdex build(and obviously than DR5). Also, BYTE writes in a manner that suggests they received a copy. My question is whether the version from BYTE is a "Developer Release"(and if it is - which one) or not.