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Ramireztime

I had some ideas earlier today, so I decided to put together this rough, NON-FUNCTIONING app for Windows Consumer Preview. Basically it would pull information from a community driven wiki, or something like that. It would also allow you to link your Download account for the BA FTP server to it, or open it in a default ftp app. I included several possible layouts, along with some appbars

in some screenshots below. Feel free to use this idea in a way or form, but you know who you heard it from...

hounsell

It's a nice idea, indeed the only problem I'm thinking with it is the wiki idea wouldn't work - the BA wiki runs on MediaWiki, which has sod all in the way of useful APIs. Fetching the information would require some nasty HTML manpulation with regex and the like.

As a side note, I am working on a BA application, based off the Tapatalk client I started writing for WP7 (and I've already ported the code - the library only took minutes to port). It'll add some BA services - I've already pencilled in support for the BA Image Uploader and Gallery.

I don't know how complete the networking APIs are - I think if it's closer to .NET 4.0 rather than Silverlight for WP7, there should be FTP support included, and we wouldn't have to write that part ourselves, it'll just be a case of creating an FTP connection and enabling SSL rather than worrying about the protocol.

I do plan on open-sourcing my BA client, I'm just looking at project hosting now. Unfortunately, I think C# expertise is not as wide-spread on BA as would be ideal for a project like this. I'll probably end up doing the bulk of the coding, but I do hope I can find other contributors.

MegaDragon998

It will be great!And when in metro to show random new posts.

SotirisMichail

hounsell wrote:

It's a nice idea, indeed the only problem I'm thinking with it is the wiki idea wouldn't work - the BA wiki runs on MediaWiki, which has sod all in the way of useful APIs. Fetching the information would require some nasty HTML manpulation with regex and the like.

As a side note, I am working on a BA application, based off the Tapatalk client I started writing for WP7 (and I've already ported the code - the library only took minutes to port). It'll add some BA services - I've already pencilled in support for the BA Image Uploader and Gallery.

I don't know how complete the networking APIs are - I think if it's closer to .NET 4.0 rather than Silverlight for WP7, there should be FTP support included, and we wouldn't have to write that part ourselves, it'll just be a case of creating an FTP connection and enabling SSL rather than worrying about the protocol.

I do plan on open-sourcing my BA client, I'm just looking at project hosting now. Unfortunately, I think C# expertise is not as wide-spread on BA as would be ideal for a project like this. I'll probably end up doing the bulk of the coding, but I do hope I can find other contributors.

I'm in the process of learning C#,so I don't think I can help you.But I think that Blizzardo knows C#.

MegaDragon998

Im learning c# too.But i am in early stages...

rciterb

Metro apps have yet to catch my attention... I'm just not totally convinced yet...

hounsell wrote:

Unfortunately, I think C# expertise is not as wide-spread on BA as would be ideal for a project like this. I'll probably end up doing the bulk of the coding, but I do hope I can find other contributors.

I've actually been doing some application development with C# for quite some time now. .NET Framework is huge but it is totally worth it...
So I guess I could be of help if anything comes up. Let me know...

WinPC

Would this automatically update itself (well, update the listings anyway) based on new releases made available, or would it have to be updated manually? While this sounds like a good idea in theory, and may even be a good way for the members here to easily and more conveniently update their Windows 8 installations upon the releasing of new builds, for it to really work out, it would need to update the listings automatically, otherwise, it would be much more difficult to keep up.

pizzaboy192

hounsell wrote:

I do plan on open-sourcing my BA client, I'm just looking at project hosting now. Unfortunately, I think C# expertise is not as wide-spread on BA as would be ideal for a project like this. I'll probably end up doing the bulk of the coding, but I do hope I can find other contributors.

How close to C++ is C#? I've got a few years of ++ under the belt, and wouldn't mind learning #

Homaaa

C# is closer to Java than it is to C++. I guess the biggest difference is that C# is managed and consequently object oriented, so neither top-level functions etc. nor pointers (at least in standard code) exist. Operators and keywords are pretty similar, but naming and general coding conventions are quite different.
I started with C myself before I switched to C#, so I would say that once you've wrapped your head around the strictly OO rules, the change is pretty easy and rewarding. Due to the (IMO) excellent language support in Visual studio and the generally good documentation, learning type and function names and purposes isn't too hard as well.

On topic: While I've been doing C# for quite some time, I've never really cared about networking and data processing. Also, I currently have no experience with Metro apps, so I'm afraid I couldn't be of help. This app is a nice idea though, so maybe I'll get started on related topics.

hounsell

I've got it committed to a git now: https://github.com/hounsell/BetaArchive-Metro

There's still a fair bit of dead code and overly-complex code in there left over from porting it from Silverlight for WP7.

However it does compile, and basic reading support for the forum is all there.

Ramireztime

It runs into some problems when I try to compile it. It shows the loading screen of the app, but it hangs then goes back to the desktop:

This is the output:
'BetaArchiveMetro.exe' (Managed (v4.0.30319)): Loaded 'C:\Windows\Microsoft.Net\assembly\GAC_32\mscorlib\v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089\mscorlib.dll', Skipped loading symbols. Module is optimized and the debugger option 'Just My Code' is enabled.
'BetaArchiveMetro.exe' (Managed (v4.0.30319)): Loaded 'C:\Users\Angel\Documents\Visual Studio 11\Projects\hounsell-BetaArchive-Metro-ec503c6\BetaArchiveMetro\bin\Debug\AppX\BetaArchiveMetro.exe', Symbols loaded.
'BetaArchiveMetro.exe' (Managed (v4.0.30319)): Loaded 'C:\Windows\Microsoft.Net\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System.Runtime\v4.0_4.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a\System.Runtime.dll', Skipped loading symbols. Module is optimized and the debugger option 'Just My Code' is enabled.
'BetaArchiveMetro.exe' (Managed (v4.0.30319)): Loaded 'C:\Windows\system32\WinMetadata\Windows.UI.Xaml.winmd', Skipped loading symbols. Module is optimized and the debugger option 'Just My Code' is enabled.
'BetaArchiveMetro.exe' (Managed (v4.0.30319)): Loaded 'C:\Windows\system32\WinMetadata\Windows.UI.Xaml.Markup.winmd', Skipped loading symbols. Module is optimized and the debugger option 'Just My Code' is enabled.
'BetaArchiveMetro.exe' (Managed (v4.0.30319)): Loaded 'C:\Windows\system32\WinMetadata\Windows.ApplicationModel.Activation.winmd', Skipped loading symbols. Module is optimized and the debugger option 'Just My Code' is enabled.
'BetaArchiveMetro.exe' (Managed (v4.0.30319)): Loaded 'C:\Windows\Microsoft.Net\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System.Runtime.InteropServices.WindowsRuntime\v4.0_4.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a\System.Runtime.InteropServices.WindowsRuntime.dll', Skipped loading symbols. Module is optimized and the debugger option 'Just My Code' is enabled.
'BetaArchiveMetro.exe' (Managed (v4.0.30319)): Loaded 'C:\Windows\system32\WinMetadata\Windows.ApplicationModel.winmd', Skipped loading symbols. Module is optimized and the debugger option 'Just My Code' is enabled.
'BetaArchiveMetro.exe' (Managed (v4.0.30319)): Loaded 'C:\Windows\Microsoft.Net\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System.Diagnostics.Debug\v4.0_4.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a\System.Diagnostics.Debug.dll'
The program '[5360] BetaArchiveMetro.exe: Managed (v4.0.30319)' has exited with code -1073740286 (0xc0000602).
The program '[5360] BetaArchiveMetro.exe: Program Trace' has exited with code 0 (0x0).

hounsell

Sorry, not sure how I missed that.

I had removed a resource dictionary (Controls.xaml) that was no longer needed, but forgot to remove it from the list of dictionaries in App.xaml.

Pushed a fix for it now.

Edit: Sidenote: Checked up on the .NET subset used in .NET for Metro Applications - no built-in FTP support

Windows XP

Just tried it myself, really nice. [img] files do need to be displayed. But it's looking good!

hounsell

I'm moving discussion of my app to this topic.

Wumbowalrus

SotirisMichail wrote:

hounsell wrote:

It's a nice idea, indeed the only problem I'm thinking with it is the wiki idea wouldn't work - the BA wiki runs on MediaWiki, which has sod all in the way of useful APIs. Fetching the information would require some nasty HTML manpulation with regex and the like.

As a side note, I am working on a BA application, based off the Tapatalk client I started writing for WP7 (and I've already ported the code - the library only took minutes to port). It'll add some BA services - I've already pencilled in support for the BA Image Uploader and Gallery.

I don't know how complete the networking APIs are - I think if it's closer to .NET 4.0 rather than Silverlight for WP7, there should be FTP support included, and we wouldn't have to write that part ourselves, it'll just be a case of creating an FTP connection and enabling SSL rather than worrying about the protocol.

I do plan on open-sourcing my BA client, I'm just looking at project hosting now. Unfortunately, I think C# expertise is not as wide-spread on BA as would be ideal for a project like this. I'll probably end up doing the bulk of the coding, but I do hope I can find other contributors.

I'm in the process of learning C#,so I don't think I can help you.But I think that Blizzardo knows C#.

I'm also in the process of learning C#, Blizzardo1 is actually my teacher!

Blizzardo1

SotirisMichail wrote:

hounsell wrote:

It's a nice idea, indeed the only problem I'm thinking with it is the wiki idea wouldn't work - the BA wiki runs on MediaWiki, which has sod all in the way of useful APIs. Fetching the information would require some nasty HTML manpulation with regex and the like.

As a side note, I am working on a BA application, based off the Tapatalk client I started writing for WP7 (and I've already ported the code - the library only took minutes to port). It'll add some BA services - I've already pencilled in support for the BA Image Uploader and Gallery.

I don't know how complete the networking APIs are - I think if it's closer to .NET 4.0 rather than Silverlight for WP7, there should be FTP support included, and we wouldn't have to write that part ourselves, it'll just be a case of creating an FTP connection and enabling SSL rather than worrying about the protocol.

I do plan on open-sourcing my BA client, I'm just looking at project hosting now. Unfortunately, I think C# expertise is not as wide-spread on BA as would be ideal for a project like this. I'll probably end up doing the bulk of the coding, but I do hope I can find other contributors.

I'm in the process of learning C#,so I don't think I can help you.But I think that Blizzardo knows C#.

Yeah I know a bit, but a Project this big? ... Maybe

pizzaboy192 wrote:

How close to C++ is C#? I've got a few years of ++ under the belt, and wouldn't mind learning #

Quite similar in my opinion. Syntax is sorta the same, It's the fact of Classes that can be an Issue.

Wumbowalrus

I might be able to contribute to this project, I'll have to learn a tad more from Blizzardo1 though because this is not my area of expertise.

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