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 PostPost subject: Visual Basic OS        Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:10 pm 
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I am starting visual basic os so if anyone wants to help it will be good.The name is "Venera OS" and it is not so good but i am accepting suggestions :)

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 PostPost subject: Re: Visual Basic OS        Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:25 pm 
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I have a suggestion: Learn to create a proper operating system. This is nothing more than a few forms with the word "OPERATING SYSTEM" stuck on them.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Visual Basic OS        Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:35 pm 
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you can make forms open on a single window.. but this is not a os..

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 PostPost subject: Re: Visual Basic OS        Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:14 pm 
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I have a suggestion: Learn to create a proper operating system. This is nothing more than a few forms with the word "OPERATING SYSTEM" stuck on them.

you mean using cosmos plugin?

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 PostPost subject: Re: Visual Basic OS        Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:04 pm 
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MegaDragon998 wrote:
linuxlove wrote:
I have a suggestion: Learn to create a proper operating system. This is nothing more than a few forms with the word "OPERATING SYSTEM" stuck on them.

you mean using cosmos plugin?

when creating a plugin is your vision, you can do it
when you want to create an operating system, you should do an operating system


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 PostPost subject: Re: Visual Basic OS        Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:52 pm 
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I'll try to be more sensible this time when I address the flawed logic here.

Visual Basic cannot be used to write an OS. Visual Basic relies entirely on Microsoft Windows libraries and thus any 'OS' you write will only be a shell.

If you are actually serious about creating an Operating System there is this website with many useful articles on how to actually do it. http://wiki.osdev.org/Main_Page

Warning: The method in which OSDev.org teaches does require you to learn the Assembly language of the architecture you are developing for, and also C for the kernel.

Like others have mentioned, If you want to use CosmosOS or something with C#, you can do that, but if I remember correctly Filesystem support is not implemented yet.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Visual Basic OS        Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:34 am 
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Jecag wrote:
I'll try to be more sensible this time when I address the flawed logic here.

Visual Basic cannot be used to write an OS. Visual Basic relies entirely on Microsoft Windows libraries and thus any 'OS' you write will only be a shell.

If you are actually serious about creating an Operating System there is this website with many useful articles on how to actually do it. http://wiki.osdev.org/Main_Page

Warning: The method in which OSDev.org teaches does require you to learn the Assembly language of the architecture you are developing for, and also C for the kernel.

Like others have mentioned, If you want to use CosmosOS or something with C#, you can do that, but if I remember correctly Filesystem support is not implemented yet.

I dont know c++ language i dont want to make real os this is just for fun :D maybe one day when i learn c++ ill make an os.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Visual Basic OS        Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:53 pm 
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The thing is, this will be pretty useless. If you want to have fun, make something useful. ;)

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 PostPost subject: Re: Visual Basic OS        Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:41 pm 
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Docs OS Research is a OS written in C# on Cosmos basis.
But on hold...
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=23064

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 PostPost subject: Re: Visual Basic OS        Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:53 pm 
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Microsoft managed to create a whole kernel and small operating system in C#: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singularit ... _system%29

Then again, it's not something you would want to do seeing as you'd have to recreate the entire JIT before you even begin.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Visual Basic OS        Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:02 am 
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Regarding Singularity, they didn't write _all_ of it in C# -- some of it had to be written in assembly (as I recall this was a few thousand lines of code). Also, they used a special C# compiler (that is not publicly available) which were able to compile the C# to native code so it didn't have to be executed on a VM as is usually the case.

From that perspective, I don't think C# is that interesting. After all, most operating systems are written in something different from assembly, for instance Windows NT and onwards is mostly written in C. Win 3.1, 95 etc. were also mostly written in C but with significant portions in assembly. Most device drivers were in fact written wholly in assembly.

Still, there's some interesting aspects of writing it in C# such as a higher level of type safety and guarentees available between kernel <-> programs. This could mean less security checks and higher performance. On the other hand, you now have an o/s that you can only target from a .NET language -- or one program could violate all of those fine guarentees.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Visual Basic OS        Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:30 pm 
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At the moment I'm busy too on a kind of OS.. I think it's more like a windows shell replacement. Take a look at it on http://www.netvos.weebly.com

You could better have the code like this in form1

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 If TextBox1.Text = "administrator" And TextBox2.Text = "password" Then
            MsgBox("Congratulations!")
            Form2.Show()
            Me.Hide()

        Else
            MsgBox("Wrong Password")

        End If

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 PostPost subject: Re: Visual Basic OS        Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:56 pm 
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Good for starting. More usability and functions!

For example:
Management of users (without pass "password" ;))
Icons and apps. Clean desktop is beautiful, but useless.

P.S. Venera Shell


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 PostPost subject: Re: Visual Basic OS        Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:03 pm 
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I stopped working on this os but i am continuing now.Ill translate it to c++ and add more functions.

P.S I will convert code to c++ not translate myself...

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Are you writting the C++ version solely for the Microsoft Windows Platform?

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 PostPost subject: Re: Visual Basic OS        Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:58 pm 
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Are you writting the C++ version solely for the Microsoft Windows Platform?

Yes for windows .

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 PostPost subject: Re: Visual Basic OS        Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:29 pm 
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If you really want to make a good looking, well rounded OS, It will take a long... and I mean long time.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Visual Basic OS        Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:44 pm 
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Well, actually, there is a Commodore 64 emulator that was written in Visual Basic, known as VB64, meaning that Visual Basic can indeed be used for purposes other than mere usage of Windows .DLLs. However, you would also have to learn how to reimplement numerous functions, similar to what the VB64 author also learned for using Visual Basic's present technology (including graphics-related functionality) to reimplement many of the routines (including graphic routines) used by the Commodore 64.

Similarly, I would guess that the same (well, more or less the same) would be true of attempting to write an operating system in Visual Basic. It may be theoretically possible, but it might take longer, due to having to rewrite many of the functions required for building a true operating system.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Visual Basic OS        Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:11 pm 
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VB.NET Operating System - 3 reasons why NOT:

1. It takes to long.

2. It is very very difficult.

3. No actual purpose.

I'd say a no-go. Your call...

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 PostPost subject: Re: Visual Basic OS        Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:56 pm 
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Okay im stopping project i dont have time even if i want to continue...I think this topic is over..Mods you can lock it.

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