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Awooo
 PostPost subject: Some new prototypes released by Hidden Palace        Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:51 am 
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DRX of Hidden Palace has released some new prototypes! They are:

- Crash Bandicoot 1 Prototype
- Mickey Mania 8/25/94 for Sega CD
- Kingdom Hearts II
- Official game.com emulator + debugger
- Pokemon Ruby proto (with Debug menu)

you can get them at: http://www.hidden-palace.org/

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 PostPost subject: Re: Some new prototypes released by Hidden Palace        Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:29 am 
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Awooo wrote:
DRX of Hidden Palace has released some new prototypes! They are:

- Crash Bandicoot 1 Prototype
- Mickey Mania 8/25/94 for Sega CD
- Kingdom Hearts II
- Official game.com emulator + debugger
- Pokemon Ruby proto (with Debug menu)

you can get them at: http://www.hidden-palace.org/

:cool:

Long time ago Hidden Palace decided to release Pokemon Ruby proto but he didn't release it because he was frightened of being sue by Nintendo.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Some new prototypes released by Hidden Palace        Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:42 pm 
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Darn, darn, DARN! No Sonic 2 Prototypes.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Some new prototypes released by Hidden Palace        Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:47 pm 
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I was about to ignore all of this until I saw that the Pokémon Ruby Prototype had been released - thanks! Totally worth it.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Some new prototypes released by Hidden Palace        Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:06 am 
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It's about time the Pokemon Ruby Debug was released. Imagine the strange, unused things to be found in the ROM. I'm hoping it's on the scale of the unused content found in Pokemon Gold & Silver.

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Hmm… Game.net… cool…


Wait… Pokémon? No!

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It's about time the Pokemon Ruby Debug was released. Imagine the strange, unused things to be found in the ROM. I'm hoping it's on the scale of the unused content found in Pokemon Gold & Silver.


My thoughts exactly!

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 PostPost subject: Re: Some new prototypes released by Hidden Palace        Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:36 am 
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Taylorover9000 wrote:
Darn, darn, DARN! No Sonic 2 Prototypes.

Exactly what I thought. I wonder what Sonic 2 Beta 3 would be like...

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 PostPost subject: Re: Some new prototypes released by Hidden Palace        Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:42 am 
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DarkerJ wrote:
Taylorover9000 wrote:
Darn, darn, DARN! No Sonic 2 Prototypes.

Exactly what I thought. I wonder what Sonic 2 Beta 3 would be like...

Yes, S2 Earlier Beta :D, Beta 2, Beta 3, Beta 9(?).
- What DID Geonode City, Dust Hill, Wood, Death Egg Beta, ect. Zone look like?
- What did earlier prototypes look like?
- What did Beta 2, and 3 look like?
- What if/was Hidden Palace zone was complete?
- What is the EARLIST proto of S2
-(S1) What did the EARLIST proto of S1 look like?
ect.

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IIRC work on Genocide City Zone never really started before it became Metropolis Zone Act 3.

The earliest beta we have is the Nick Arcade proto, which is filled with Sonic 1 leftovers. Anything earlier would probably be some bizarre hybrid of Sonic 1 with a heavily WIP Sonic 2 level or two.
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 PostPost subject: Re: Some new prototypes released by Hidden Palace        Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:42 am 
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Ziron wrote:
IIRC work on Genocide City Zone never really started before it became Metropolis Zone Act 3.

The earliest beta we have is the Nick Arcade proto, which is filled with Sonic 1 leftovers. Anything earlier would probably be some bizarre hybrid of Sonic 1 with a heavily WIP Sonic 2 level or two.

Hmmm... "Bizarre Hybrid of S1".....
Also, yes, I know we have the Nick Arcade Proto, infact, its my favorite build! But earlier (even if it is MORE of a messed up wonderland of S1 leftovers and S2 SWIP levels! ;) ) would be AWESOME! As you may know, I LOVE collecting betas, especially for Sonic 2. Mainly early, though; Nick Arcade, Beta 1 (Simon Wai), and even Beta 4.

Ya know, its like Vista/Longhorn build 3683 or 7 build 6469.
3683 contains XP leftovers, but is still Longhorn. 6469 and 6519 has Vista leftovers, but is still 7.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Some new prototypes released by Hidden Palace        Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:09 am 
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If ya want any Sonic 2 (or even 3 ^^)prototype,find'em on SonicRetro(its on the wiki).

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 PostPost subject: Re: Some new prototypes released by Hidden Palace        Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:18 pm 
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If ya want any Sonic 2 (or even 3 ^^)prototype,find'em on SonicRetro(its on the wiki).

The sonic 3 protos are sonic "3c" which is sonic 3 and knuckles.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Some new prototypes released by Hidden Palace        Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:34 pm 
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I can answer some of these questions.

Taylorover9000 wrote:

- What DID Geonode City, Dust Hill, Wood, Death Egg Beta, ect. Zone look like?

There is a small part of Wood Zone that is playable in the Simon Wai beta of Sonic 2. Dust Hill was Mystic Cave Zone's name mistakenly in the Wai beta also.

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- What did earlier prototypes look like?


Well, as far as we know, we have the Wai beta, and the Nick Arcade beta. The Nick Arcade beta's EHZ is quite different in many ways from the final, or even the Wai beta. The Wai beta has most of Sonic 2's final levels, many of them incomplete obviously.

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- What did Beta 2, and 3 look like?
ect.


If Beta 3 is found, the Wai beta will be Beta 2, and the Nick Arcade beta will be Beta 1.

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- What if/was Hidden Palace zone was complete?


If you go into Hidden Palace Zone in the Wai beta (or the Nick Arcade beta) with debug mode on, there is a small part of Hidden Palace Zone near the end of the level underwater. In Sonic 2 final, Hidden Palace Zone is still there (although very glitchy and garbled), and you would automatically spin down down the tube, so at some point some more work went into it.

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- What is the EARLIST proto of S2


The earliest found proto of Sonic 2 was the Nick Arcade prototype. Its so early that it has Sonic 1 level names, (Marble Zone = Chemical Plant Zone, Spring Yard Zone = Hidden Palace Zone, Star Light Zone = Emerald Hill Zone, and Scrap Brain Zone = Hill Top Zone), Sonic 1 music, and even still has Green Hill Zone from Sonic 1 (with glitchy collision detection). Its even so much like it, that locking it onto Sonic and he Knuckles would unlock the full Blue Sphere game (it also does this in the Simon Wai beta).

I hope this answers your questions. ^^

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 PostPost subject: Re: Some new prototypes released by Hidden Palace        Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:59 pm 
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DarkerJ wrote:
I can answer some of these questions.

Taylorover9000 wrote:

- What DID Geonode City, Dust Hill, Wood, Death Egg Beta, ect. Zone look like?

There is a small part of Wood Zone that is playable in the Simon Wai beta of Sonic 2. Dust Hill was Mystic Cave Zone's name mistakenly in the Wai beta also.
Yes, I know! I'm not that stupid, I like researching Nick Arcade, "Simon Wai", and Beta 4, prototypes. Ya, know what? Debug for NA Proto: C, C, C, C, Up, Down, Down, Down, Down, Up *brrrring*

Taylorover9000 wrote:
- What did earlier prototypes look like?


Well, as far as we know, we have the Wai beta, and the Nick Arcade beta. The Nick Arcade beta's EHZ is quite different in many ways from the final, or even the Wai beta. The Wai beta has most of Sonic 2's final levels, many of them incomplete obviously.

*sigh* EARLIER THAN NICK ARCADE.

Taylorover9000 wrote:
- What if/was Hidden Palace zone was complete?


If you go into Hidden Palace Zone in the Wai beta (or the Nick Arcade beta) with debug mode on, there is a small part of Hidden Palace Zone near the end of the level underwater. In Sonic 2 final, Hidden Palace Zone is still there (although very glitchy and garbled), and you would automatically spin down down the tube, so at some point some more work went into it.

I know this. What if it was %100 complete! 8-)

Taylorover9000 wrote:
- What is the EARLIST proto of S2


The earliest found proto of Sonic 2 was the Nick Arcade prototype. Its so early that it has Sonic 1 level names, (Marble Zone = Chemical Plant Zone, Spring Yard Zone = Hidden Palace Zone, Star Light Zone = Emerald Hill Zone, and Scrap Brain Zone = Hill Top Zone), Sonic 1 music, and even still has Green Hill Zone from Sonic 1 (with glitchy collision detection). Its even so much like it, that locking it onto Sonic and he Knuckles would unlock the full Blue Sphere game (it also does this in the Simon Wai beta).

You sure this is the EARLIST EXTISTING build? Earlier than Nick Arcade? 'Cause again, I'm not stupid.

I hope this answers your questions. ^^

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Taylorover9000 wrote:
kyllian1212 wrote:
If ya want any Sonic 2 (or even 3 ^^)prototype,find'em on SonicRetro(its on the wiki).

The sonic 3 protos are sonic "3c" which is sonic 3 and knuckles.


Sonic 3c is Sonic 3 Complete… Sonic 3 and Knuckles was what Sonic 3 was supposed to be… but they split it into 2 games…

Sigh… Game betas… :)

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DRX has released another proto! This time it's a Tomb Raider 1 E3 Demo!

Link: http://www.hidden-palace.org/
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Lets turn this into:The Hidden Palace topic ^^

[EDIT]E3 Demo of Sonic Rush for DS,everyone?
http://www.hidden-palace.org/?releases/console/4

[EDIT2]Here is the betas on Sonic Retro for Sonic 2(in order of release):
Nick Arcade: http://info.sonicretro.org/images/5/50/ ... org%29.zip
Simon Wai: http://info.sonicretro.org/images/8/8e/ ... _-%21-.zip
Beta 4: http://info.sonicretro.org/images/9/93/ ... org%29.zip
Beta 5: http://info.sonicretro.org/images/4/4c/ ... org%29.zip
Beta 6-1: http://info.sonicretro.org/images/3/3a/ ... org%29.zip
Beta 6-2: http://info.sonicretro.org/images/4/46/ ... org%29.zip
Beta 7: http://info.sonicretro.org/images/3/3b/ ... org%29.zip
Beta 8: http://info.sonicretro.org/images/e/e2/ ... org%29.zip

Betas 6-1 and 6-2 are identical except for a few bytes in the header.

Also Taylorover9000,i know the older Sonic 3 is called Sonic 3C. -.-

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Oh , i never expected to see a "Pokemon Ruby" Proto version with a debug. I will surely use various Debug commands to see what unused stuff Nintendo have "hidden" in the ROM =P
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