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 PostPost subject: a question about linux        Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 5:42 am 
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Does linux NTFS as the HDD format?If not what is it?Just curious.


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 PostPost subject: Re: a question about linux        Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:13 am 
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Linux is able to open NTFS, I am unsure if Linux can be installed on NTFS.
The default format is "ext4" but it can be changed.


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 PostPost subject: Re: a question about linux        Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:10 pm 
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Linux CAN be installed on NTFS. Some distros even have the ability to format a drive as NTFS from the installer. Also, the default filesystem is different for different distros. Ubuntu uses ext4, Fedora uses Btrfs now (if I remember correctly), and so on and so forth.

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 PostPost subject: Re: a question about linux        Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:47 pm 
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Most Linux clients can read from an NTFS Partition, and some can write.

I didn't know it was possible, and would never recommend installing Linux on an NTFS partition. The filesystem will start acting wonky dealing with POSIX permissions rather than standard Windows ACLs.

If you need a common space for file between OSes, create another partition in FAT32.


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 PostPost subject: Re: a question about linux        Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:37 pm 
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eminem_rh25 wrote:
Most Linux clients can read from an NTFS Partition, and some can write.

I didn't know it was possible, and would never recommend installing Linux on an NTFS partition. The filesystem will start acting wonky dealing with POSIX permissions rather than standard Windows ACLs.

If you need a common space for file between OSes, create another partition in FAT32.


*hehe* Yeah, it's POSSIBLE to install on NTFS (if you know what you're doing), but it is NOT recommended. However, if you install ext2 file system support on Windows, you can access your Linux drives from Windows. That makes things MUCH simpler. I have Windows 7, Windows 8 DP, and Ubuntu 11.10 Beta 2 on my computer, and using this method I can pass files back and forth with no problems.

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 PostPost subject: Re: a question about linux        Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 2:25 am 
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NTFS cannot be used as the boot partition for Linux since it lacks support for the Unix permissions system and bootloader issues, but most Linuxes will let you write to them through the ntfs-3g driver.


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 PostPost subject: Re: a question about linux        Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 3:36 pm 
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This is because of the ntfs-3g package. Derp. I'm sure there's a port for Mac OS X too.

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 PostPost subject: Re: a question about linux        Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 4:48 pm 
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For Mac OS X, ntfs-3g is available through fink: http://pdb.finkproject.org/pdb/package.php/ntfs-3g


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 PostPost subject: Re: a question about linux        Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:16 am 
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Andrew Z wrote:
Linux is able to open NTFS, I am unsure if Linux can be installed on NTFS.
The default format is "ext4" but it can be changed.


Do you know if you can get ACL support on ext4?


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 PostPost subject: Re: a question about linux        Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:35 pm 
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Linux is better to Install using ext partition.
Linux can read NTFS, but Windows cannot read ext partitions.
But you can use this application :)
http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd/ or http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2read/


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 PostPost subject: Re: a question about linux        Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:09 am 
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soulman wrote:
This is because of the ntfs-3g package. Derp. I'm sure there's a port for Mac OS X too.


Yeah, there is NTFS-3G for Mac too... using MacFuse. But it's very outdated.

That's better to use Paragon NTFS for Mac (it exists for Linux too), or Tuxera NTFS for Mac (There is a linux version of this too).

The both are paid software... but it's really better then Fuse+ntfs-3g. Faster and more stable.

In other hand, there is ways to read ext2 inside Windows, and HFS+ too.. this later using MacDrive (paid). It's a great pice of software.


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