Funny, because #betaarchive no longer exists, and I was banned from #nttalk for supposedly telling Andy that #betaarchive was dropped...

I had no control over the IRC, so it wasn't me who banned you. And yes, the IRC server is still online and allowing people to login so far as I am aware.

Andy has neve had any power over #nttalk here or anywhere - the owners of the official #nttalk of recent times has always been Skynet, winocm, and I with a couple others helping out.

BA-IRC is pretty much dead. Move on.

Indeed. I'm surprised that the IRCd hasn't been uninstalled actually.

I have an suggestion: What about turning on the services of BA-IRC ?

No. The IRC is dead. Don't use it.

Wait, we cannot use the IRC anymore? Why? I was tying to figure out how I can access it but I guess it's too late .

Nobody used BA-IRC, so it died. The IRC channel that currently has the most BetaArchive userbase would be irc.alphachat.net #nttalk, but that's not an official channel in the slightest nor is it even affiliated with BetaArchive's management.

So you're trying to tell people not to use it? This is WHY it died the first time, you have completely the wrong attitude.

Have you been on the thing? It's got no services, no administrators, not even any idlers. It's dead, I don't know what else to call it. Sure he can go ahead and use it, but unless he's planning on talking to nobody, what's the use is my point?
If you want to revive it from the dead, that's all fine and dandy. But at this point it's abandoned, useless, and dead. Why bother pretending anything else?

My point is, instead of being negative you could be constructive and come up with ideas on making it work.

I'm sure somewhere in the pipeline I mentioned having some sort of permalink, instead of just a announcement that slowly died off.

And to be honest, a whole IRC network for one small-mid size (depending on perspective) forum isn't appropriate. It would work a lot better if the channel was on some other network, big (i.e. EFNet,Freenode) or mid/small (i.e. RTN-DF, AlphaChat). (Unsuprisingly I listed networks I use frequently, and others as well).

That was mainly why the link I put on was there, since people on BA-IRC were dropping like flies since one channel, one discussion point, not much happening. Linked in, users increased, chat increased. Unfortunately, no permalink hit the channel and users just dropped off. Eventually BA-IRC got split off again, and it's been left dormant again.

If you want this to work, permalink at the top, with a webirc client (mibbit, JWIRC), and don't run an individual IRCd for one channel. It's a waste of resources and potentially a security hassle.

*Rioter puts $0.02 in the meter.

I don't see how it's a waste of resources for the 5MB or so of memory it uses, and it's not like the server can't handle it. As for security, if anything begins to happen (DDoS etc) then OVH will simply block the port, or I can do it. The reason we run our own is simple - we keep separate from the other networks and we have FULL control over it's running. I don't like out-sourcing things when I don't have to.

Why has the IRC server failed the past two times? No permalink is one, another is because small users on a very small IRC server. Eventually they just disappear and bye bye, no more users.

If you had it on a public IRC server like EFNet, first it's a robust network, second if it gets botnetted or something like that, it will deal with it. If it was on your dedi on the one server, bye bye IRCd. Third, it's a two way system. People will find the #betaarchive channel, visit the site, ..., profit.

I'm in a rush so this isn't the best constructed argument. What I'm trying to say is running your own IRCD, with services and maintaining that for five users is a waste of time. So you're outsourcing, so what? If you so seek to have 150% control, then well I may as well give up.

rioter: chanop != oper.

Well done. Don't you think I'd know that. Evidently no is the answer.

Also that last post, I did not mention the word oper. I know what I'm saying. So you dont get oper privs on EFNet, it's not damn needed, contrary to your network. Nuff said.

I did this so that cooled and stitch/Zimmy don't take it over, go yell at them

Also, could some mod delete this before a flamewar starts

I will not be using an external IRC hosting, end of. We will host our own IRC no matter what the opinion of others are because it is easier, avoids "takeovers" as mentioned above and gives us complete control over the network. If you don't want to use the IRC, then DON'T, but quit the hell complaining, seriously. You're not forced to use it.

As for any other betaarchive channels, I haven't authorised the creation of any of them, so please don't use them. There is no control over those channels from any of our staff so there is no telling what will go on in those channels.

Also, for the record

Problem solved. In case stitch (Zimmy) or cooled appear in there, point them to this topic - they attempted to make this channel +i once...

Well that's the nail in the coffin pretty much. I'd dare not say more since if you let me speak my mind I will quickly find myself out the door. That's enough said already. If anyone wants to know my true opinion on the matter, PM me and I will not disappoint.



You must be blind since me and Andy are active in the topic.
Also if you know how to keep a channel from being taken over by zimmy/whoever, then there's no problem!

Why don't we have an IRC? It would be great to have one.

It exists, you and anyone else is welcome to use it, but I'm not supporting it.

What's the server, then?

When we had a webchat it was more popular...