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 PostPost subject: Re: Backup Server Improvements and Upgrades        Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:40 am 
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 PostPost subject: Re: Backup Server Improvements and Upgrades        Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:48 pm 
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 PostPost subject: Re: Backup Server Improvements and Upgrades        Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 2:05 pm 
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 PostPost subject: Re: Backup Server Improvements and Upgrades        Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 2:07 pm 
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Your PC is not a server.
Your PC does not have 7TB of disk space.
Your PC uses an out-dated operating system.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Backup Server Improvements and Upgrades        Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 4:43 pm 
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Rob215, all well and good you can afford a new PC, where as some of us don't have money in our pockets to spend on new rigs etc for posting on forums. As Andy said, a PC is NOT a server. The difference is server operating system prices are volatile and the hardware has to be able to cope with large loads thrown at them 24/7, not gaming every once in a while.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Backup Server Improvements and Upgrades        Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 9:12 pm 
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Rob215, if you're a college student you can go to Dreamspark and get Windows Server 2008 R2 standard for free, regular price $899 at Newegg.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Backup Server Improvements and Upgrades        Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 9:23 pm 
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 PostPost subject: Re: Backup Server Improvements and Upgrades        Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 9:29 pm 
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He's also 10 years old as stated in another topic, so he's not going to be a college student.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Backup Server Improvements and Upgrades        Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:08 pm 
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 PostPost subject: Re: Backup Server Improvements and Upgrades        Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:25 pm 
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Rob215 wrote:
Andy wrote:
Your PC is not a server.
Your PC does not have 7TB of disk space.
Your PC uses an out-dated operating system.


1. You can download HFS, that will make it a server. I have it on all the time.
2. Kind of right and wrong.
I have a 320 GB HDD + 500 GB HDD + 20 GB + 160 GB
A TB althougher
3. I'm going to go either the route of Linux or Windows 7.


1. Hardly. There a "server", and then there's a proper Home Server. Installing HFS would make it firmly the former. Having it on all the time doesn't make it a server either - It's primary use being serving makes it a server.

2. In what sense is Andy "kind of wrong"? He said you don't have 7TB. No matter how you look at it, that is true. 1TB is a nice local cache on a desktop. Hell, I have 2x500Gb in RAID0 and a 640GB in my desktop, and that doesn't serve in the slightest.

3. Linux, lol. Windows 7 is kinda meh for Server purposes (though I think that might be what Andy uses on his server, so sshhhh). Having a proper server OS, like Windows Server 2008 R2, is much more flexible.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Backup Server Improvements and Upgrades        Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:34 pm 
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Yes I do use 7 on my server. I don't see the need to use a Server OS that is based on 7, when 7 does the job perfectly.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Backup Server Improvements and Upgrades        Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 6:06 pm 
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 PostPost subject: Re: Backup Server Improvements and Upgrades        Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 6:08 pm 
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Or you could stop arguing with people who:
a) Own servers and have done for years
b) Are much older and wiser than you, and take what they say as being more reliable.

You should stop being so big-headed, especially for your age, or you're only going to be hated on the Internet where-ever you go. I'm telling you now, I've seen it many times before both here and on other sites.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Backup Server Improvements and Upgrades        Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 6:11 pm 
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OK
Or we can go the deletion route.
I mean deletion of the posts about my PC and forgetting about them.

Route 3 seems fair.

BTW do you have the invisible mode on?


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 PostPost subject: Re: Backup Server Improvements and Upgrades        Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 6:13 pm 
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No. Andy's just a ninja. He's in, replied and out again faster than you can blink an eye.

How about you stop backseat moderating? That is against the rules, after all.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Backup Server Improvements and Upgrades        Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 6:38 pm 
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 PostPost subject: Re: Backup Server Improvements and Upgrades        Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 1:04 am 
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Rob215, to be honest, I agree with Andy. Us guys on BA have had more experience in servers, operating systems, hardware etc to have much more knowledge and experience than you. Like Hounsell said, no-one likes a back seat moderator, it basically makes the 'back seat mod' a very sad poster who is not very liked within the community. We cannot just forgive and forget if you break a rule. If you murdered a person, would the law make you apologise to the dead man's corpse and forget it? I think not.

Hounsell, I tried Windows Server 2008 Enterprise R2. It's a good, solid OS (I prefer it as a server OS to Windows 7 :p) but I just hated my 64-bit driver issues. Especially with the Wi-Fi adapter. As to whether I prefer Windows Server to say CentOS, I cannot say. I use both operating systems as I like them both as server OSes. However, I do like having a barebone linux terminal on say an old Pentium 2 for a makeshift server, I find it fun. While I'm posting, I'm installing Windows Server 2003 Enterprise R2 on to my lovely old Pentium 3 while I plan on building my own rackmount case to house a Pentium 2 in. Pardon my brainfart.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Backup Server Improvements and Upgrades        Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 1:53 am 
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I love microsoft, using DreamSpark I got server 08 standard and standard R2. Biggg improvement over server 03. Oh Andy, the new Samsung 2TB drives any good? I need to decide what are better still WD or Samsung.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Backup Server Improvements and Upgrades        Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:14 am 
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Toshua123 wrote:
Oh Andy, the new Samsung 2TB drives any good? I need to decide what are better still WD or Samsung.


Having used both Samsung and WD drives in my home server, the Samsungs were definitely more impressive. They were faster and noticeably quieter too. The Samsung 2TB Drives are just more of the same excellence Samsung have been doing for a while now with the Spinpoints.

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Spinpoint F3? all though i am a huge WD fan, ive got three 1TB caviar greens, might get a Samsung give it a try :)

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My Home Server now runs a 1TB Spinpoint F2, a 1.5TB Spinpoint F3 and a 2TB Spinpoint F4 :)

Used to have a 750Gb Caviar Green, but it was really quite noisy next to the Samsung 750Gb I had at the time, and not quite as quick either, and that wasn't even a Spinpoint.

The 2TB Spinpoint F4 is nothing short of amazing performance-wise. It's bordering on what you could get with a typical RAID0 with 2 lower-end drives. Certainly the first single drive I've had capable of pulling a sustained transfer rate of over 100MB/s.

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I feel dwarfed compared to you lot. You all seem to have power hungry data mines in a corner of your house. All I seem to have/need is a single core athlon64 with 1gb ram and 1.25TB of data available running Svr08R2.

I suppose it depends on what you use it for. :/

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I feel dwarfed compared to you lot. You all seem to have power hungry data mines in a corner of your house. All I seem to have/need is a single core athlon64 with 1gb ram and 1.25TB of data available running Svr08R2.

I suppose it depends on what you use it for. :/

Dwarfed? You? Compared to my server setup, yours is a huge datacenter compared to mine.

server1:
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Thing is Matt, you probably don't keep a lot of the things you download, such as movies/series where as I do and so do many others. Also remember I keep a backup of BA so there is almost 1.5TB alone, plus my series/movies is another 1.2TB, so it does add up. It all depends on whether you want to keep everything or just things you know you need.

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