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 PostPost subject: Ubuntu 11.10 -> Ubuntu 12.04        Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:56 am 
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Hi,

I have Ubuntu 11.04 on one of my laptops and I was wondering is there any way to upgrade directly to 12.04 without losing my data? Ive heard that you cant but I just want to make sure.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Ubuntu 11.10 -> Ubuntu 12.04        Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:50 am 
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 PostPost subject: Re: Ubuntu 11.10 -> Ubuntu 12.04        Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:23 am 
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No, TheThingThatFlies heard right.
Ubuntu doesn't support skipping releases, except for LTS to LTS, of course.
So he'll have to update to 11.10 first...


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 PostPost subject: Re: Ubuntu 11.10 -> Ubuntu 12.04        Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:04 am 
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bckf wrote:
No, TheThingThatFlies heard right.
Ubuntu doesn't support skipping releases, except for LTS to LTS, of course.
So he'll have to update to 11.10 first...


Even with the "alternate" CD? I suppose its not that hard to go 11.04->11.10->12.04. Might want to backup before though.

PS, 12.10 is in alpha 2, doesn't seem like a long time 'til that upgrade, but its 1/4 year away.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Ubuntu 11.10 -> Ubuntu 12.04        Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:57 am 
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TheThingThatFlies wrote:
Hi,

I have Ubuntu 11.04 on one of my laptops and I was wondering is there any way to upgrade directly to 12.04 without losing my data? Ive heard that you cant but I just want to make sure.


The subject says 11.10 but the body says 11.04...
... wat.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Ubuntu 11.10 -> Ubuntu 12.04        Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:00 pm 
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Just use the alternate install CD or update manager -d option. It should work.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Ubuntu 11.10 -> Ubuntu 12.04        Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:17 pm 
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john11 wrote:
bckf wrote:
No, TheThingThatFlies heard right.
Ubuntu doesn't support skipping releases, except for LTS to LTS, of course.
So he'll have to update to 11.10 first...


Even with the "alternate" CD? I suppose its not that hard to go 11.04->11.10->12.04. Might want to backup before though.

PS, 12.10 is in alpha 2, doesn't seem like a long time 'til that upgrade, but its 1/4 year away.

It's likely to break packages this way...

And yes, 6 months release cycle is just so fast... annoying for me.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Ubuntu 11.10 -> Ubuntu 12.04        Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:32 pm 
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bckf wrote:
john11 wrote:
bckf wrote:
No, TheThingThatFlies heard right.
Ubuntu doesn't support skipping releases, except for LTS to LTS, of course.
So he'll have to update to 11.10 first...


Even with the "alternate" CD? I suppose its not that hard to go 11.04->11.10->12.04. Might want to backup before though.

PS, 12.10 is in alpha 2, doesn't seem like a long time 'til that upgrade, but its 1/4 year away.

It's likely to break packages this way...

And yes, 6 months release cycle is just so fast... annoying for me.


Would a straight upgrade from 11.04 to 12.04 be safer? Or did you mean Alternate CD could cause packages to be broken?

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It is fast, and the changes are not that huge between versions anyway


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 PostPost subject: Re: Ubuntu 11.10 -> Ubuntu 12.04        Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:46 pm 
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I'm generally speaking.
Sounds like Ubuntu can't correctly manage release skipping, and I can't see why an upgrade option should be safer than another.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Ubuntu 11.10 -> Ubuntu 12.04        Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:55 pm 
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I just upgraded from 11.04 > 11.10 > 12.04 and lost nothing via the normal update manager

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 PostPost subject: Re: Ubuntu 11.10 -> Ubuntu 12.04        Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:57 pm 
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bckf wrote:
I'm generally speaking.
Sounds like Ubuntu can't correctly manage release skipping, and I can't see why an upgrade option should be safer than another.


Ok. But really if you upgrade 11.04->11.10->12.04 your not skipping a release. But making backups before upgrade might be in order in any case.

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I just upgraded from 11.04 > 11.10 > 12.04 and lost nothing via the normal update manager

Good to hear! Unfortunate that you couldn't skip 11.10, but at least it worked.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Ubuntu 11.10 -> Ubuntu 12.04        Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:01 pm 
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Sorry, I misread your post.
Of course 11.04->11.10->12.04 is the way to go.
I also said that in my first post.
For some reason I thought you was talking about upgrading 11.04 to 12.04 with the alternate CD.
I just woke up, so I'm not really brilliant right now. :P


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 PostPost subject: Re: Ubuntu 11.10 -> Ubuntu 12.04        Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:06 pm 
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bckf wrote:
Sorry, I misread your post.
Of course 11.04->11.10->12.04 is the way to go.
I also said that in my first post.


My posts are not hard to misread :) So just 11.04->11.10->12.04.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Ubuntu 11.10 -> Ubuntu 12.04        Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:11 pm 
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bckf wrote:
john11 wrote:
bckf wrote:
No, TheThingThatFlies heard right.
Ubuntu doesn't support skipping releases, except for LTS to LTS, of course.
So he'll have to update to 11.10 first...


Even with the "alternate" CD? I suppose its not that hard to go 11.04->11.10->12.04. Might want to backup before though.

PS, 12.10 is in alpha 2, doesn't seem like a long time 'til that upgrade, but its 1/4 year away.

It's likely to break packages this way...

And yes, 6 months release cycle is just so fast... annoying for me.


Um, a 6 month release cycle isn't that fast. Mozilla Firefox releases a new version every 2 WEEKS! Also, the Ubuntu developers are in heart of it and we testers try out the new builds and get the release to you.

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I'm a Ubuntu tester, you know, but of course that isn't Ubuntu's official comment...

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 PostPost subject: Re: Ubuntu 11.10 -> Ubuntu 12.04        Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:03 pm 
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Ok, I know, you got to keep pace with application developers, who have really fast release cycles.
But I can't be bothered updating my OS every 6 months.
I'm ok with doing that about every year, even if I have to use outdated applications, as long as I can get security updates.
When I really need the latest version of some software I go for source code or unofficial repositories.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Ubuntu 11.10 -> Ubuntu 12.04        Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:52 am 
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smartboyhw wrote:
Um, a 6 month release cycle isn't that fast. Mozilla Firefox releases a new version every 2 WEEKS! Also, the Ubuntu developers are in heart of it and we testers try out the new builds and get the release to you.

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I'm a Ubuntu tester, you know, but of course that isn't Ubuntu's official comment...

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Um, Firefox is a program, not an OS, and both Firefox and Ubuntu have nightly releases. I think most of us who use Ubuntu are "testers"


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 PostPost subject: Re: Ubuntu 11.10 -> Ubuntu 12.04        Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:13 am 
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john11 wrote:
smartboyhw wrote:
Um, a 6 month release cycle isn't that fast. Mozilla Firefox releases a new version every 2 WEEKS! Also, the Ubuntu developers are in heart of it and we testers try out the new builds and get the release to you.

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I'm a Ubuntu tester, you know, but of course that isn't Ubuntu's official comment...

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Um, Firefox is a program, not an OS, and both Firefox and Ubuntu have nightly releases. I think most of us who use Ubuntu are "testers"


There are no NIGHTLY builds. Instead there were daily builds...........
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Well, I'm in the Ubuntu tester community...

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