Me too! 9GB to download

Is it only for x64 Systems (PC-Prozessor) or for x86 ???

I didn't start the download, sorry

Luckie

is ok i wait for answer from another User here. I hav only x86 PC, when only x64, i can forgotten this Project here.

ugh 9gb and no x64 comp, i might leave this for a while

This is for x64 only. Really. And have you looked at the minimum system requirements? 2GB of RAM, 60GB HD space...

That is ridiculous In theory though, it should run on 512 MB Ram, as it appears to be Longhorn Server (which I presume has the same requirements as Vista) with the Centro stuff installed on top of it:



Who's going to be first to download one of the 3 GB images and see if it works in QEMU then? Or are any of you with x64 machines going to give it a go soon? - it'd be interesting to see some screenshots of this.

Is it really Longhorn Server Build 5112 that comes with it, do you reckon, or is it just a coincidence that the build number is the same? When there was that screenshot of Centro a while back, it looked like a recent release of Vista, not LH Beta 1 (5112 didn't even have the Start Orb or anything).

even if i had an x64 cpu, i don't have 60gb free

I find it difficult to believe that it actually takes up 60 GB when you first install it (especially considering the DVD for one machine is 3 GB - how could you get 60 GB of files from a 3 GB install disc?) - it's probably like how they recommend something like 15 or 20 for Vista, even though it only takes up about 5 GB, where they're recommending what you need to have a usable Centro system that you can install lots of applications and service packs, store lots of files like you'd need to on a server etc.

Yes, I think at least the underlying OS will run with 512MB of RAM as my Longhorn Server installs have been fine with 512MB to 1024MB.


I'm downloading one of the three now (3rd one which is the smallest, meant for the Edge or Management server, can't recall now). edit: Downloading now at ~30KB/s. For ~3GB this is gonna take at least 24 hours...... Sadly I don't have an x64 box. I'd be really curious to see which Longhorn Server build it has underneath. I guess I'll just check some of the system files in the image, then.


It's been confirmed the LH build in it is not 5112, as files in it are way never than these from 5112. It's just a coincidence. And this really early Centro screenshot was probably showing LH Server because the newer builds of it have Aero Basic.

I thought you had an x64 Mac? (or is it a Core Duo rather than a Core 2 Duo, can't remember now) That's a rather slow download speed - I thought Microsoft usually have good speeds? Are you using the Europe servers, which everyone seems to say are a lot faster than the US ones?

It's a Core Duo and thus an x86 Mac. The Core 2 ones weren't available when I got it.
I was using the USA server because the European one was giving me problems (download wouldn't start and stuff like that). But I have now realized that the 3GB images won't be any good for testing because they require the Management server (from the 4GB image) to be up and running while being installed, otherwise the setup of any of the 3GB images will fail... So I'm downloading the 4GB image (which is the management and thus "master" one, I think) now. That's the image I should be able to install on its own.
I have now started the 4GB download from the EU server, and so far it's been doing quite well at 30-35KB/s, just as fast (or rather slow) as the US server.. I'm beginng to think my connection could be the culprit, but I suppose it's likely the servers are being hammered with downloads. Could have been as bad when Vista RTM'd!

Hallo empireum

Da du ja deutsch verstehst, mal nu kurz eine Frage speziell an dich.

Ist es also so, wie ich das hier herauslese, das man diese Beta nur mit einem 64 Bit Prozessor nutzen kann und man muss mindestens 2 GB RAM haben oder wie ?

Schreib doch bitte ma kurz in Deutsch für mich eine Antwort hier.

Gruß

@kidde
Lucky one... I can't get more than ~30kB/s, no matter if I'm using the Europe or the USA server. The last times I downloaded something on Connect, I've been using the European servers and they gave great speeds as well (120kB/s, that's where my line maxes out). Don't know why I'm not getting more now. I guess the servers are being hammered (or it's my line). Do you get these speeds in general or specifically when downloading Centro? I mean, I can let my machine run for more than 24 hours if it takes that long to complete the download, that's not the problem, I'm just a bit surprised that I'm not getting more than ~30kB/s now. But IIRC, a friend that got Vista RTM on Connect told me the same thing happened with it... Maybe it'll be fine in one day or two...



@pinarek
Please keep it in English, I sent you a PM.

What does it say? I'm an idiot and don't know how to use newsgroups/stuff like that has always been a bit of a mystery to me and kind of scares me a bit I was hoping they would send it out, as I don't really feel like downloading 4 GB just to have a look at the files on the setup disc/on the offchance that it might work in QEMU

OK thanks - I probably won't bother downloading the build until they've said they definitely won't ship it then. I'd be interested to hear of any progress that any of you have with installing it here though.

One thing: are we going to allow screenshots of the build on here, as on the Centro site it says that they'd rather we didn't distribute them yet, and it could maybe cause trouble with MS if they found out? I'd be very interested to see the build if any of you get it installed, but don't want MS coming here and causing trouble!

I can probably try that as soon as my download of DVD #1 (the 4GB one) has finished. Still 40 hours to go @ 30 KB/s... But I have an undetermined feeling that it won't work in QEMU, don't know why. Unfortunately I don't have any 64-bit builds of Vista or Longhorn Server to do some pre-testing because these results would surely apply to Centro as well. .


Good point... I'd rather hear Andy's opinion on that. If it's not permitted, we could always use one of the free image hosters. Then, at least the pictures can't be directly linked to the forum if MS gets to know of them. Or do you think it wouldn't be a good idea to do so anyway? I personally do not want to get in trouble with MS...

You need to have all 3 servers networked. Somebody installed the management server and all they got was a blank desktop with the tag and nothing would work.

But as far as I understand the quickstart notes, the management server has to be set up first, and then, the other servers (messaging/edge) will have to be set up while the management server is still up and running. So at least the management server should be able to be installed and used without the other two being up.

I thought MS might not like links to screenshots either as it looks like they don't want Centro info to be too public yet, like they made a fuss about links to 5048 shots all those years ago...they'd probably just ask for them to be removed - I don't think us personally would get into trouble but I thought Andy might not like getting an email from MS asking (as the site owner) to remove the links!

don't worry, i have never gotten over 50kbs from connect ever. It always says there has been a speed limit from the server.

I would be very interested in seeing some screens. I'm sure all Microsoft will do is ask for them to be removed, rather than going to court

Just saw this story that "Cougar" has also just started beta-testing, which is the next version of SBS (Centro is for mid-sized, rather than small, businesses). Don't suppose any of you are on the beta for that, are you?

When/if you install it before I get to do it, which is very likely I suppose, could you do me a favor? Please check the build of Longhorn Server that Centro sits on top of. I'd love to know that.


I personally am not. But I see that Cougar/SBS2008 will be x64 only, too. I think it's really time to upgrade the testing box then...

Really annoying, isn't it? Anyone would think Microsoft were in league with Intel or something, the amount of x64-pushing they're doing (and at the same time everyone seems to be saying whatever you do, don't install the x64 version of Vista, even if you've got an x64 system).

By the way, the computer I have been really really keen to have since it came out is the 24" screen iMac Core 2 Duo, as it's 64-bit, amazing screen, can run OS X natively and legally, and the Core 2 Duo is the best CPU around at the moment and even better than my P4HT. Then I could try out all these new servers...trouble is that they're many times too expensive and my current PC isn't anywhere near old enough to justify getting a new one!