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 PostPost subject: Windows 8 - No Desktop?        Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:11 am 
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Not entirely sure if Windows 8 is going to have a desktop or this is just the start menu. :?

What do you think?


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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 8 - No Desktop?        Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:19 am 
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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 8 - No Desktop?        Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:50 am 
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I think that website says it can't be wituhout it. And we all know Windows 8 will come with Windows-not just Metro, which is only a small part of it.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 8 - No Desktop?        Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:25 am 
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Not entirely sure if Windows 8 is going to have a desktop or this is just the start menu. :?

What do you think?

It's the start menu. Look at the bottom right tile and you will notice something -- 'Desktop'.

IMHO, I would want to stick with 7...this new start panel is overly invasive when on a desktop computer...

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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 8 - No Desktop?        Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:42 am 
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It's the start menu. Look at the bottom right tile and you will notice something -- 'Desktop'.


We all know the desktop is there, I think the OP was talking about what if it wasn't there-could Windows 8 operate purely with Metro, and I'm pretty sure it can't, Windows 8 needs Windows. Metro is only a small part of Windows 8-not only the start menu, there are also Metro apps, but still only a small part.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 8 - No Desktop?        Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:35 am 
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If they would do that then they can make new operating system other than windows with fancy looks.Also i somewhere in the past heard windows 8 will be last windows os.Next will be called something on M.(Im not sure this is truth but im saying what i heard)

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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 8 - No Desktop?        Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:16 pm 
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If they would do that then they can make new operating system other than windows with fancy looks.Also i somewhere in the past heard windows 8 will be last windows os.Next will be called something on M.(Im not sure this is truth but im saying what i heard)

Midori? Please. Midori is nowhere near ready for use for the masses and it would be stupid of Microsoft just to throw away the years of development that they've poured into NT.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 8 - No Desktop?        Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:18 pm 
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Midori? Please. Midori is nowhere near ready for use for the messes and it would be stupid of Microsoft just to throw away the years of development that they've poured into NT.


I think it's pretty clear from the amount of extra effort that's gone into NT in this latest revision and the fact that Midori has been quiet for a number of years that Midori as a project has either failed, or has serious underlying issues that won't be resolved soon. Telling also is the recent shift back towards native code - after years of .NET stealing the Microsoft Development headlines, C++ has seen a definite resurgence lately.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 8 - No Desktop?        Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:24 pm 
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Well Midori is dead of course now.But there were rumors back in 2010.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 8 - No Desktop?        Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:33 pm 
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I am an idiot. I said "messes" instead of "masses". Corrected.

I would think with the way Metro is implemented it simply wouldn't be possible to have it where there is no desktop at all. Metro is simply too restricted for that.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 8 - No Desktop?        Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:39 pm 
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MegaDragon998 wrote:
Well Midori is dead of course now.But there were rumors back in 2010.


Actually, there's been no new information on the Midori front since Mid-2008 now. Not even that it's been cancelled.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 8 - No Desktop?        Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:33 pm 
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Well Midori is dead of course now.But there were rumors back in 2010.


Actually, there's been no new information on the Midori front since Mid-2008 now. Not even that it's been cancelled.

I read that late.My mistake.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 8 - No Desktop?        Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:44 pm 
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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 8 - No Desktop?        Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:23 pm 
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There is a desktop, at the bottom right, there's a cutoff app called desktop. I don't really like the new metro UI...


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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 8 - No Desktop?        Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:58 pm 
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Well everyone has their opinion but its true that desktop is on picture.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 8 - No Desktop?        Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:32 pm 
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i guess that you actually havent used windows 8, try it out before asking like this. or do a little research. :-)

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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 8 - No Desktop?        Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:35 am 
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There is a desktop, at the bottom right, there's a cutoff app called desktop.

Yeah I think we've established that.


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I've used windows 8 since it was first leaked on 7850 and on ward its a mobile os meant to take on android and apples iOS. However Microsoft is blurring the lines between a truly mobile operating system and desktop OS. My view is that metro overtly simplifies an OS that was already intuitive for the user. It makes it more applefied so it dumbs down the user interface such that the Microsoft is decreasing productivity in order to get more of a user base mostly for touch interface people and desktop / start menu is the first victim. There you go since I've used every windows 8 build ever released or publicly leaked.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 8 - No Desktop?        Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:06 am 
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I've used windows 8 since it was first leaked on 7850 and on ward its a mobile os meant to take on android and apples iOS. However Microsoft is blurring the lines between a truly mobile operating system and desktop OS. My view is that metro overtly simplifies an OS that was already intuitive for the user. It makes it more applefied so it dumbs down the user interface such that the Microsoft is decreasing productivity in order to get more of a user base mostly for touch interface people and desktop / start menu is the first victim. There you go since I've used every windows 8 build ever released or publicly leaked.

I disagree in some respects. Most current/beta OS versions are beginning to blur the lines between App-based (mobile) OS and Window-based (traditional desktop) OS. Look at GNOME3, look at Ubuntu's Unity, look most of all at OSX.

You also made the mistake of thinking that the classic windows interface is intuitive. For example, let's say there's some person who has never used or observed the use of a computer. Hand them an iPhone or an android tablet, and they will probably figure out how to use it (assuming the device is unlocked and the screen is on). Hand the same person a windows 7 laptop. Assuming they figure out that the trackpad is used to control the machine, the concept of clicking is inherently unintuitive.

Those of us that have always used computers think it makes perfect sense, but in reality, it is not very intuitive. Touch UIs are only going to become more popular with time, and as such, everybody wants to have the capability in place when it becomes standard on most computers.


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