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 PostPost subject: Tip to XP users        Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 1:25 pm 
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You want to use XP after 2014 with not to worry about that your os have security exploits?
Well there is a operating system who is based and working by exactly the same way as XP and it has support untill 2024 - Windows Embedded POSReady 2009

It's technically XP with diffrent theme and start screen

It's available to download in
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download ... x?id=11196

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 PostPost subject: Re: Tip to XP users        Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 1:29 pm 
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POSReady 2009 is based on Windows XP Embedded, which has a lot of features removed so it can make problems to some users.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Tip to XP users        Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 1:32 pm 
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POSReady 2009 is based on Windows XP Embedded, which has a lot of features removed so it can make problems to some users.

They can be added manually somehow

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 PostPost subject: Re: Tip to XP users        Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 1:33 pm 
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Another thing i would do is host an FTP server with all XP updates available in .exe format.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Tip to XP users        Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 2:31 pm 
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Zv45Beta wrote:
POSReady 2009 is based on Windows XP Embedded, which has a lot of features removed so it can make problems to some users.


Remember that you can customize Embedded windows versions very heavily (Not sure about POSReady though). You can even strip the desktop interface completely if you wanted to ;)

Ontopic, from now on I'll install POSReady on all systems in need of XP. Timebomb is easily removed as well.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Tip to XP users        Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 3:31 pm 
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Another thing i would do is host an FTP server with all XP updates available in .exe format.

Or someone can do an unofficial SP, like someone did for Windows 2000 ;)

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 PostPost subject: Re: Tip to XP users        Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 4:15 pm 
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This still doesn't change the fact that developers are already dropping support for the Windows 2000/XP/Server 2003-era operating systems. Or at least, that they will soon.

I myself used to consider each way of keeping Windows XP for as long as possible - I used to run a hybrid Windows 2000 Service Pack 4/Windows XP Service Pack 3 setup, with the latter containing my Internet Explorer 8 and anything else that was relatively modern.

Of course, I knew that Windows XP would be dropped in April 2014, but I heard that Windows Server 2003 would be supported until July 2015, and even more, I heard that Windows Embedded POSReady 2009 would be supported at least as late as April 2019, so I considered using those versions as a means of keeping the NT 5.x line on my system.

Not anymore, though... I mean, when a security flaw ruined my Windows XP Service Pack 3 installation's Internet connection back in 2011 (leaving me stuck with a "nice" Internet Explorer 6.0 installation due to not being allowed to use Firefox until recently out of protection of the other companies), and when I kept continually having problems with both of my Windows installations, and especially when I started upgrading to Windows 7 and later to Windows 8, that was when I started researching the alternatives, until I finally decided to retire Windows XP completely.

Long story short: Windows XP is old, and so are 2000 and even Server 2003. They're not really "modern" anymore. And this special version is likewise only being supported longer probably due to older machines and software that can't be upgraded to the newer operating systems. This is very common in the "embedded machine" market, especially when specialized hardware is involved, whereas this is not as much of an issue in the normal retail and business markets.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Tip to XP users        Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 4:58 pm 
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 PostPost subject: Re: Tip to XP users        Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 10:13 pm 
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I'll still use Windows XP on most of the older computers that i own from 2000-2005 era (Such as my Custom-Built Athlon 64 PC), I tried Embedded POSready 2009, Seemed pretty slow to me, But on the same computer, Windows XP was a lot faster 8-), I don't know why, But it acted that way, I stopped using XP as my main OS since 2011 as i said before, So this probably doesn't matter to me

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 PostPost subject: Re: Tip to XP users        Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 10:27 pm 
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I'm stopped using Windows XP on any computer and virtual machine I have since 2013 as I said before, So this also probably doesn't matter to me


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 PostPost subject: Re: Tip to XP users        Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 9:07 pm 
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Embedded markets have longer support lifecycles than mainstream operating systems due to the fact that once they're installed there is no need to reconfigure the device. For example WfW 3.11 was available for the embedded market until November 1, 2008.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Tip to XP users        Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 12:26 am 
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Embedded markets have longer support lifecycles than mainstream operating systems due to the fact that once they're installed there is no need to reconfigure the device. For example WfW 3.11 was available for the embedded market until November 1, 2008.
That's also true, as you pointed out. Also, as far as I know, embedded devices have little need for future advances in technology in the same way that normal client and server systems do.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Tip to XP users        Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 3:49 am 
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Thanks for the link I downloaded the ISO but I didn't see where I could get a trial product key. Should I register or something?

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nickenzi wrote:
Embedded markets have longer support lifecycles than mainstream operating systems due to the fact that once they're installed there is no need to reconfigure the device. For example WfW 3.11 was available for the embedded market until November 1, 2008.


True, but it's also absurd to think that there'll be the same level of updates and that most updates will be publicly available. Most updates will be done on an as-needed basis and made available to paying customers with support contracts.

My tip to Windows XP users would to stop living in the past and upgrade to Windows 7 or 8.

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Embedded may not support the games and HD graphics. What do you think?

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 PostPost subject: Re: Tip to XP users        Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 2:47 pm 
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Thanks for the link I downloaded the ISO but I didn't see where I could get a trial product key. Should I register or something?

Where does it ask for key?

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nickenzi wrote:
Embedded markets have longer support lifecycles than mainstream operating systems due to the fact that once they're installed there is no need to reconfigure the device. For example WfW 3.11 was available for the embedded market until November 1, 2008.


True, but it's also absurd to think that there'll be the same level of updates and that most updates will be publicly available. Most updates will be done on an as-needed basis and made available to paying customers with support contracts.

My tip to Windows XP users would to stop living in the past and upgrade to Windows 7 or 8.
I'm afraid that I have to agree with you there. As an ex-longtime XP-user myself, I realized just how much I was simply missing the opportunity to use something more modern, especially as I started moving up to Windows 7 for Internet access at our other home back in 2011 and Windows 8 for all intents and purposes later that year.

Even though Windows XP may still be receiving updates, though, it's far from secure in this day and age - believe me, I was the victim of such an incident myself that rendered my entire Service Pack 3 installation's Internet connection completely useless, taking my Internet Explorer 8 installation with it. And let's just say that I was VERY lucky even to have a working installation of Windows 2000 - otherwise, I would have been left with no Internet access whatsoever.

And it didn't help that back then, I was still rather suspicious of how Mozilla could have used the extra market share to threaten other developers, so I wasn't really allowed to use Firefox even on an older version of Windows. I was left without access to a lot of websites as a result of this, all because of some security flaw that wiped out my copy of Internet Explorer 8. Just shows how "secure" Windows XP is today... 8-)

But, well, at least that was one of many incidents that finally convinced me to upgrade to Windows 8. :)

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 PostPost subject: Re: Tip to XP users        Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 11:41 pm 
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Where does it ask for key?


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A google search of "windows pos 2009 key" yielded positive results though :cool:

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I take it theres no way to skip it like on winxp? Surprised in this so called "future proof" windows they didnt give you the option to "activate later".The more options the user has the more willing they are to buy that product.


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I take it theres no way to skip it like on winxp? Surprised in this so called "future proof" windows they didnt give you the option to "activate later".The more options the user has the more willing they are to buy that product.


Except a user doesn't buy POSReady. That's not how it's sold.

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I would rather use Windows Server 2003, you can easily convert it into a workstation, and it's newer.

I like the theme of Windows Embedded POSReady 2009 though.

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I would rather use Windows Server 2003, you can easily convert it into a workstation, and it's newer.

But its support also ends in April 2014.

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I've already started upgrading all my computers from Windows XP to Windows Vista(Old GX270) and Windows 8


Come on, Vista? Any reason in particular? I would prefer Windows 7 instead of Vista. About Windows 8.... well, I don't like the new Start screen and other annoyances, but I could live with them. But Vista???


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