Post subject: Trying to recreate msdn/technet pt_winxp_pro_vl_iso.img Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:26 pm
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I'm trying to recreate pt_winxp_pro_vl_iso.img (Windows XP Pro Volume PT-PT SP0), but all i could find out about this edition through Google was its SHA1 (ABBF975C074AAF635E9D989EE216FC79AB1DB1A3) at this page, it had a program called "Share MSDN.exe" that no longer works.
My first ever Windows XP CD was a modified version of this edition, all files have time/date set to 20/11/2001 12:00:00, except the following:
Can anyone confirm what is the closest edition to xx_winxp_pro_vl_iso.img (in your language or any other language), and if the missing files can be found on other ISOs or manually recreated?
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Post subject: Re: Trying to recreate msdn/technet pt_winxp_pro_vl_iso.img Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:36 pm
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Did you change your PC's timezone to the appropriate one? (be aware of DST!) Because -g does NOT work for 2.46.
The rest is the same as what I have in a batch file... as well for English as Dutch... (apart from the -g switch)
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Post subject: Re: Trying to recreate msdn/technet pt_winxp_pro_vl_iso.img Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:32 pm
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English ISOs have hex(0x833D) = E4 (no -g switch) with GMT-08:00. Portuguese ISOs have hex(0x833D) = 00 (-g4) with GMT 00:00, if -g is not used it will have hex(0x833D) = 04 and wrong SHA1.
Because the command works for all the other ISOs, the problem seems to be those 8 files with the different time/date, it seems my VL ISO was created from another ISO, so i believe some files are not the correct ones. I just found out i had 5 SP0 English ISOs (Home OEM/Retail, Pro OEM/Retail/VL) forgotten in a folder, I'm going to compare all of them and try to figure out which files are different. Usually English ISOs have less differences than ISOs from other languages.
How many Dutch Windows XP SP0 ISOs do you have?
EDIT: I just compared the 8 files from all other English Windows XP versions with the files from en_winxp_pro_vl_iso.img and they are all different, so there is no chance of recreating the VL ISO since those files are unique to the version. The only one that probably is correct is SETUPP.INI, since it can manually be created/edited. SO i guess I'll just keep searching for the ISO...
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Post subject: Re: Trying to recreate msdn/technet pt_winxp_pro_vl_iso.img Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:54 am
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When I compare Dutch and English RTM VLK versions with the files you mention the the only files that are the same are pidgen.dll and setupreg.hiv.
The file WINNT.SIF cannot be found in neither of the VLK images...
Read the switches list (CDIMAGE.EXE /?), -g is used for set the timezone to UTC if i remember correctly and not to set it on a specific timezine (like 2.52p)...
EDIT: btw, since you're referring to a website in your search of the original hash... Did you know Microsoft provides them on their'e website? You wil only need a MS Live account and you can see everyting available at MSDN/Technet (no downloads, only info) LINK for PT Windows XP items
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Post subject: Re: Trying to recreate msdn/technet pt_winxp_pro_vl_iso.img Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:27 am
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So...
DPCDLL.DL_ -> different between languages (or different compression?) OEMBIOS.BI_ -> different between languages (or different compression?) OEMBIOS.DA_ -> different between languages (or different compression?) OEMBIOS.SI_ -> different between languages (or different compression?) PIDGEN.DLL -> copy from en_winxp_pro_vl_iso.img SETUPP.INI -> manually editable SETUPREG.HIV -> copy from en_winxp_pro_vl_iso.img WINNT.SIF -> delete
Is this right?
EDIT: It seems SETUPP.INI is another problem... This is SETUPP.INI for all my XP SP3 editions: ExtraData=786F687170637175716954806365EF Pid=76451xxx for XP Home Pid=76452xxx for XP Pro
But for SP0, Extradata is different between all versions, except for XP Pro VLK PT and EN, they are the same because it seems my VLK was created from Retail PT + VLK EN...
So I guess there is no way of recreating the ISO, since there is no way of recovering the original OEMBIOS.* files and original Extradata value. At least it works, so I'll keep it until I somehow find a clean version of VLK PT.
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Post subject: Re: Trying to recreate msdn/technet pt_winxp_pro_vl_iso.img Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:07 pm
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There could a "WXPFPP_PT" iso be found via torrents but it's updated to SP2 (says the description and the file size) but not all the files are updated when slipstreaming... maybe the files you need are still in tact in that ISO and could be used for re-creating the RTM VLK ISO...
P.S. since you are also collecting orginal XP iso's... do you have EULA v2 from the English Windows XP Pro Reatil RTM?
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Post subject: Re: Trying to recreate msdn/technet pt_winxp_pro_vl_iso.img Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:05 pm
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Thanks for the info (did you mean WXPVOL_PT?), I added a torrent and also tried emule, there is a zip file with a similar name, I'll try both and see where it takes me to.
I don't know what you mean by EULA v2... the English XP Pro Retail RTM i have is en_winxp_home_x86_build2600_iso.img, 496.568.320 bytes, SHA1 B273C8D41E3844E3E46722F52F5A4CF9F206C8D0. Is this what you're looking for?
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Post subject: Re: Trying to recreate msdn/technet pt_winxp_pro_vl_iso.img Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:38 pm
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my mistake... I meant OEM... OEM was brought out very early and has also an updated EULA. (to my knowledge only in English) For XP HOME I have both but for PRO I only have v1 See the end of EULA.TXT
I did a compare between "WXPOEM_EN", "WXPFPP_EN", "WXPVOL_EN", "WXPFPP_NL", "WXPVOL_NL" (I do not have "WXPOEM_NL").
Down here are the files you could possibly need to create VOL from FPP from the same lang... (using OEM as base is useless since the 15 files that could be different are in fact different...)
i386\acc_dis.ch_ (same as FPP) i386\accessib.ch_ (same as FPP) i386\dpcdll.dl_ (VOL and lang specific) i386\eula.txt (same as FPP) i386\iesupp.ch_ (same as FPP) i386\iewebhlp.ch_ (same as FPP) i386\nt5inf.ca_ (VOL and lang specific) i386\oembios.bi_ (Same as VOL from other lang when unpacked! Different time stamp... So basically VOL and lang specific) i386\oembios.ca_ (Same as VOL from other lang when unpacked! Different time stamp... So basically VOL and lang specific) i386\oembios.da_ (Same as VOL from other lang when unpacked! Different time stamp... So basically VOL and lang specific) i386\oembios.si_ (Same as VOL from other lang when unpacked! Different time stamp... So basically VOL and lang specific) i386\pidgen.dll (Same as VOL from other lang) i386\setupp.ini (VOL and lang specific) i386\supp_ed.ch_ (same as FPP) i386\win9xupg\win95upg.inf (same as FPP)
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He was posting on Filesonic before it went down, and is now selling ISOs at 10$ each. I doubt he has specific ISOs, he probably has the same MSDN/Technet access as everybody else, but I'll ask him for Windows 2000 and XP Pro VL ISOs anyway
Thanks for the deep comparison. According to your findings, I won't be able to recreate the original pt_winxp_pro_vl_iso.img without the original files, so I'll settle with a custom version, since I probably will never find the original CD/ISO anyway. I'll play with some files tonight...
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Post subject: Re: Trying to recreate msdn/technet pt_winxp_pro_vl_iso.img Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:19 pm
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i think i got a xp volume license disc at home its not msdn or technet and i don't know ifs its rtm or got a sp1 am busy tonight but will install it in a vm and report back. you after the rtm volume disc files ain't u ?
Post subject: Re: Trying to recreate msdn/technet pt_winxp_pro_vl_iso.img Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:53 pm
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skywalker06 wrote:
i think i got a xp volume license disc at home its not msdn or technet and i don't know ifs its rtm or got a sp1 am busy tonight but will install it in a vm and report back. you after the rtm volume disc files ain't u ?
Yes, I'm after the XP Pro VL SP0 / RTM, but in European Portuguese language. The one you have is PT-PT or EN-US language?
Also, no need to install, just check the CD root for WIN51* files (WIN51IP.SP* is the service pack added), and the content of i386\SETUPP.INI, those alone tell you which version you have, and for the language, check the contents of the *.HTM files also in the CD root.
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Post subject: Re: Trying to recreate msdn/technet pt_winxp_pro_vl_iso.img Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:49 pm
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johnye_pt wrote:
He was posting on Filesonic before it went down, and is now selling ISOs at 10$ each. I doubt he has specific ISOs, he probably has the same MSDN/Technet access as everybody else, but I'll ask him for Windows 2000 and XP Pro VL ISOs anyway
If I remember correctly I have read somewehere he works for (or has connections with) HP. Thats why he have access to all the ISO's. (which I already have downloaded in Dutch and English while FS was still working)
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Post subject: Re: Trying to recreate msdn/technet pt_winxp_pro_vl_iso.img Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:56 pm
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Could he have access to ISOs that are no longer at MSDN/Technet, like Windows 2000 Pro/Server? That would be great, as I had already considered buying used CDs if I could find them at an affordable price. I found a couple but the sellers were a lot greedy...
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Post subject: Re: Trying to recreate msdn/technet pt_winxp_pro_vl_iso.img Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:31 pm
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I don't know... since FS is down and he says he "lost" TB's of data I don't think he has local copy's...
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Post subject: Re: Trying to recreate msdn/technet pt_winxp_pro_vl_iso.img Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:53 pm
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I think he just means he lost the files on Filesonic, nobody is dumb enough to delete a local file after uploading it somewhere... is it? I mailed him anyway and asked for 3 ISOs and "proof" of ownership before any transaction (mount the ISO, open explorer, take a printscreen, send me the picture), so I can see the CD label and files' date/time, that way I'll know for sure if he has the right ISO or if he is just trying to scam me...
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Post subject: Re: Trying to recreate msdn/technet pt_winxp_pro_vl_iso.img Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:19 am
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I was almost there... almost.
The SP2 WXPVOL_PT from the torrent was manually slipstreamed, as some files retained the original date (11/20/2001,12), so I'm betting those files are equal to the original WXPVOL_PT.
Starting with WXPFPP_PT, WXPVOL_PT+SP2 and your comparisons, i have:
i386\dpcdll.dl_ (VOL and lang specific) - missing i386\nt5inf.ca_ (VOL and lang specific) - missing i386\oembios.bi_ - from WXPVOL_PT+SP2, same original date i386\oembios.ca_ - from WXPVOL_PT+SP2, same original date i386\oembios.da_ - from WXPVOL_PT+SP2, same original date i386\oembios.si_ - from WXPVOL_PT+SP2, same original date i386\pidgen.dll - from WXPVOL_EN i386\setupp.ini - from WXPVOL_PT+SP2, same original date
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Post subject: Re: Trying to recreate msdn/technet pt_winxp_pro_vl_iso.img Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:42 am
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@LateShiftI know about that hash, the only thing I need is a proper EULA.TXT file from hat ISO...
Found the text already on the internet but I'm unable to recreate the file since there is at least one byte changed... could be a extra space somewhere...
So if you can provide me a proper EULA.TXT file it would be great!
I only have: WXPOEM_EN_v1.iso (c3c07918248774402b596258f012e08549cd957c)
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Thats anoying... only 2 files left...
I just compared the EN VOL RTM to SP1a (I don't have SP1) on that 2 files but no luck there... even unpacked the files are totally different...
The VOL iso you already had (the one you started this topic with) does not have these 2 files? or is was it just an OEM/FPP to VOL the lazy mans way...
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Post subject: Re: Trying to recreate msdn/technet pt_winxp_pro_vl_iso.img Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:06 pm
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I just browsed MSDN and the ISO is available! I don't remember being there the last time... do you know anyone with a MSDN/Technet account that could possibly upload it to BetaArchive?
EDIT: The WXPVOL_PT i started with seems to be made from WXPOEM_PT (which i don't have) + WXPVOL_EN, but I'll dig into that later on (no free time for now), because there is no official SHA1 for Pro OEM that i know of.
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Post subject: Re: Trying to recreate msdn/technet pt_winxp_pro_vl_iso.img Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:04 pm
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johnye_pt wrote:
I just browsed MSDN and the ISO is available! I don't remember being there the last time... do you know anyone with a MSDN/Technet account that could possibly upload it to BetaArchive?
EDIT: The WXPVOL_PT i started with seems to be made from WXPOEM_PT (which i don't have) + WXPVOL_EN, but I'll dig into that later on (no free time for now), because there is no official SHA1 for Pro OEM that i know of.
I have an ISO of WXPVOL_PT (I even used that as my main OS in the last few years of my Pentium 4), so I'll try to find it and get you those files you need.
Post subject: Re: Trying to recreate msdn/technet pt_winxp_pro_vl_iso.img Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:17 pm
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Battler wrote:
I have an ISO of WXPVOL_PT (I even used that as my main OS in the last few years of my Pentium 4), so I'll try to find it and get you those files you need.
Great! Let's hope it's not the same as mine... i created a md5 check file with md5summer. Can you use it on your CD/ISO and verify which files are different? If you know a better program for this, please tell me and I'll use it.
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Post subject: Re: Trying to recreate msdn/technet pt_winxp_pro_vl_iso.img Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:54 pm
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@LateShift Thnx for pointing me out! Note to self: READ the whole post!
@johnye_pt, could you send me the EULA.TXT file from the XP Pro RTM OEM ISO? Since you don't have "WXPOEM_EN_v1.iso" I can send you the EULA.TXT file from that one. (thats the only file changed, even the time stamps are the same from both ISO's...
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