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 PostPost subject: Re: Dissecting a Windows build tag        Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:54 pm 
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Yes sorry, those were years. The NT OS/2 project started in 11/88 with the first lines of code written in 02/89.

An additional few notes on some of the fields in the original article:

The minor version isn't just used to identify a minor increment, it's also used to avoid changing the major version. Such a change was done for Windows 7 and also for Windows 8; the reason being application compatibility.

In regards to using the checked build, it's not a requirement to have a debugger attached. Prior to Windows Vista, if a debugger wasn't attached and an assertion failed, the system would bugcheck. Now if an assertion fails and there's no debugger, it's not reported which is not of great use for a developer.

As for build architectures, the values are x86, amd64 and woa. You could also see ia64 for versions earlier than Windows Server 8.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Dissecting a Windows build tag        Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:41 pm 
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linuxlove wrote:
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And... Rights Account Certificate GUID... is this something like disabling Windows features in some build labs so if they are leaked, only the lab-related features are leaked?

As far as I can tell, the RAC GUID is just used for tracking Windows 8 builds as they go around.

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9. Enforcement or excludenent of features' policies (fully customizable, example policy: Shell-InBoxGames-Solitaire-EnableGame), for the given Application ID and SKU ID. This is where SLC calls for RP-permissions for locked features.

One lab don't know about the features of an other lab. All labs are building based on a recent code from WinMain, where all the labs' code is consolidated. If the lab's key is used, the features of that lab activate and become usable per above RAC system, ELSE the build is no difference from the corresponding WinMain code, that this lab's build was built against at it's time. Meaning: if fbl_srv_wdacxml (Windows Server Data Access Components XML) is installed with the default key, it isn't differ from the corresponding winmain build and you cannot know which changes are tweaked to precisely that component and how that component differ from WinMain code.


Note: not an official statement, just my opinion based on my digging in the SLC system that described before.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Dissecting a Windows build tag        Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:57 pm 
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lol, and i always thought fre after architecture means French... *hehe*

Ditto! :D

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 PostPost subject: Re: Dissecting a Windows build tag        Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:30 pm 
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That first post in this thread made me learn a lot about NT version numbers.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Dissecting a Windows build tag        Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:05 pm 
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I already knew some of that basic information, but the rest was all new. Some great information here for new windows users that just like to mess around with those beta builds. ;)


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 PostPost subject: Re: Dissecting a Windows build tag        Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:49 am 
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Why does Neptune (Build 51111) have a greater number than Whistler Build 2296? I thought Whistler was newer than Neptune!


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 PostPost subject: Re: Dissecting a Windows build tag        Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:50 am 
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Who knows why Neptune started in the 5xxx range? You were correct in thinking that Whistler was newer than Neptune.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Dissecting a Windows build tag        Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:00 pm 
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Wow I thought the build tag was just an ID.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Dissecting a Windows build tag        Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:33 pm 
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If not, very close to that many.

There was some discussion that Windows build's numeration isn't continuous but discrete.

It's known that they decided to jump builds for public release, but what isn't known is whether or not they still keep compiling behind the scenes after RTM to see what else they can do to their code.
Post-RTM compiles are known to exist of 7, with build tags of around the 77xx range.

if it is post RTM builds of the os, it is either never used, put in a service pack, or put into a new OS; at least that is what i believe...
for example, the early 'win8' probably wasn't win8 but the staff messing around with new ideas (ex. the user pic in start bar wasn't in the final build)


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 PostPost subject: Re: Dissecting a Windows build tag        Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:58 am 
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 PostPost subject: Re: Dissecting a Windows build tag        Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:07 pm 
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MCB just has a copy of OP from this topic, that was put there once this was written.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Dissecting a Windows build tag        Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:36 am 
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That is indeed correct DeFacto, it is a straight copy of this information, since it is relevant to the MCB.
Ofcourse it isn't mine and Linuxlove, Daniel, arseny92 are properly credit at the beginning of the article.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Dissecting a Windows build tag        Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 4:42 am 
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Interesting. I never knew that before. Although I did know about the Compilation Date, and the NT major and minor numbers, plus the Build Number. But the rest seemed like random numbers, but I guess they aren't.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Dissecting a Windows build tag        Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 7:58 am 
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Thanks. Now I can solve the builds.

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