...antagonist, IP terrorist, revolutionary, hacker (the bad kind), exploiter, botter or any other piece of trash trying to destroy the net:

We recieved your "message" (along with the other 200+ ones, they are so easy to delete you know) and we got the reason of why you keep spamming this forum. And we completely disagree with you. What you do is wrong. You are no different than any of the other "terrorists" on and outside the net trying to force an issue by using force.

You spam this forum because you think the quality of BetaArchive has degraded to a point you find unacceptable. So you come here, spam away, further degrading the quality. All by your own hand. At the same time you threaten us that you will continue as long as we don't do as you say. Basically "do as I say or else...".

This kind of behavior puts you on the same kind of team as the other real life terrorists. You know, the ones trying to end your little miserable life just because they don't agree with you. Sure, you are in the kindergarten category and only "terrorise" the net, thus not making any real difference. But you behave just the same way.

Kindergarten terrorist) You don't agree with something, so you spam a community to force an issue.
Real terrorist) They don't agree with something so they blow up a building or kill people.

Kindergarten terrorist) You say that BA has declined in quality and that you shall continue your terrorist deeds as long as your demands are not met, at the same time destroying the community for the innocent members that has not done anything to you.
Real terrorist) They say the western world has declined in morality etc etc so they will continue to blow up buildings, kill innocent people as long as their demands are not met. Destroying the life and livelyhood for the innocent that has not done anything to anger them.

The comparisons can go on and on.

But here you are, threatening us with continued spamming and expecting us to take you seriously? Really? You try to save a community by killing it. It's like curing the disease by killing the patient. Good job, be sure to contact the Nobel committe for an instant Nobel prize cashout! In your case I would go for the Darwin awards instead.

Now, if you had gone about this the right way - the way where we would take you seriously, where we would listen to you, hear your concerns, discuss your solutions and ideas, develop them and even implement them you could have done some of the following:

• You could have become a member of this forum and have a chance to influence it in a positive way.
• You could have told us the real reason of why you dislike BetaArchive so much, and come up with ideas on how to improve it.
• You could have befriended us, gained our trust and perhaps have a real influence on the development of BetaArchive.
• You could have contacted us (in)formally and simply told us why you won't join BA and what your "needs" as you put it, are for BA to become a place for you.

Naturally all this wouldn't guarantee that you would succeed in your mission, and if that happened you would have made a choice to either continue working for a chance to improve BetaArchive, or just leave BetaArchive for other things. You are not forced to join this community and this community poses absolutely no threat to you in any way.

You may not agree with how this community does things, you may not agree with our rules, procedures, forum layout or whatever. But by attacking the "problem" in a correct way you would be guaranteed that we would listen, discuss your ideas and explain our ideas as well. We would have told you why we do things this way, we would have told you that members chose a certain way, and we would have simply taken you seriously in an attempt to make BetaArchive better. BetaArchive is not some totalitarian state, we get input from members all the time. Sometimes we implement them, sometimes not. BetaArchive is not a pure democracy (such democracy does not exist anywhere, on the net or outside of it) but we do listen to our members and get influenced by them. And when we disagree they will get explanations of why and offer them a choice to discuss alternatives or compromises.

But all you try to do is spamming the forum, taking away precious time from us and our moderators by having us delete your posts, instead of spending the time working on making BetaArchive better. You are trying to make BetaArchive better by making it even worse. You threaten to continue unless we meet your demands.

You sir, are a terrorist.

BetaArchive does not negotiate with terrorists.

Nor do we take them seriously and we do what we need to do to stop you.

No one forces you to be on BetaArchive. No one forces you to follow our rules, take part of our discussions, download our files or provide files of your own. But if you join you will follow our rules, but you will also have a chance to change them.

As the terrorist you are you have forfeit the right to make any influence on this forum including the rules. You have forfeit the right to be part of its development or its future. You have forfeit the right to even be a member of it for the sole purpose of working for a better beta community. You have forfeit all rights and claims to any of it. Forever.

BetaArchive will stay on the net as long as the community lets it. As long as we have members discussing topics, as long as we have members uploading files and as long as members think it should exist BetaArchive will stay online. If you don't want any part of it then stay out of our way. And if BetaArchive causes you so much pain then I suggest you disconnect your computers from the Internet, shutdown your computer, and visit a psychiatrist because you got a real problem.

If you can't respect other peoples wishes and freedom then you have no right demanding any of your own.


You are a terrorist and I will not waste any more time with you.

Goodbye and have a nice life!


Ps. You can do whatever the heck you want with the old "Zimmy" database. It does not contain any vital information, it's heavily outdated and for all I care you can put it whereever you want, preferrably in an orifice of yours. Waving around an old database that is over one years old is like waving around an old outdated version of Windows or game. No one cares. It's OLD! Links has changed. Passwords has changed. Topics has changed. That version of BetaArchive is gone and this one is the one that matters.

We don't care what you do with it. This goes to anyone trying to make an old outdated database as an argument for terrorism.

right behind you guys ,don't let this hacker get to you , he doesn't deserve to know about the existence of this website !
spammer , if you can read this , get off daddys computer and go play with your toys , people have better things to do that deal with you constantly .

Thank you mrpijey, I was actually going to write the same thing to him as a PM but his account got deleted and I was like dangit, I wrote all of that for nothing. I wish there was a like button ...

Agreed in total



lol'd

Good topic, I have to agree with mrpijey completely.

Thankfully the filth he posted is now cleared.

Hope these [censored] won't come back and pollute BA with old issues.

you sound like the Government xD

How many different ways have we tried to rid BA of the current spammer?

What ways haven't we tried?

Rickrolling?

Destro tried that last night

Trololo?

you know usually i am all for standing up for ones self specially against bullies and other parasites of the like, but personally i only think threads like this are only going to exacerbate the issue, having people post comments and add fuel to the fire isnt the best thing either, with the name calling and everything that goes with it, i would have just deleted said topics and moved on and forgot about it all, sure make a post but lock it so it doesnt turn into a name calling, childish, immature flame thread...

peas
cityboy

I don't agree. If the spammer (who, by the way, is a, well, bigger idiot than me, and that's saying something) knows what we think of him, he might go out and [hinttospammer]get a life[/hinttospammer].

fairly highly doubtful that thats going to happen based on what i saw most of the night lastnight.....given that this is the internet most people could care less about what or how you think of them tbh....

but thats fine i am not asking you to agree with my, just spitting my opinion, thats all...

peas
cityboy

True.

It can also mean that one is brave enough to stand up for one self without breaking instead of doing nothing and making the other side think that you got intimidated by the bullies. But I see your point and respect it. But when it comes to me I rather let them know what I think about them, because then I am honest and truthful compared to the cowards that try to force their way through with violence and threats.

I didn't do anything wrong by expressing what I think is the common view of the situation. They did everything wrong by assuming that we would be scared and intimidated by their childish games and behavior. Nor was my post meant to provoke, just to let them know that I won't give in. And I believe the same can be said about many other members of this board, which is why BetaArchive will survive. If the spammers had any decency and intelligence then they would stop and focus their energy on something productive. In that case my post made an impact. If they don't then my post wouldn't do any difference since they would only continue with it anyway. To me it's a win-win.

And if I really wanted to provoke them then it would have been too graphic for this board, and they would know that I was provoking them. In the worst sense possible. But I am not that kind of person. And I have much more important things to do than to play their lame games.

Each opinion is a valid one, and I respect yours, but the post was made by me and it will stay . After all, it's my opinion on it. Just as everything else I wrote on this forum section.

Personally I find that this guy is either

A. A Hipocrit, because if you find that the quality of posts is going down, then post spam, you are being the thing you are working against.
B. A Nimby, (NotInMyBackYard) who can't stand beta sites. IMHO if B is true he should get the [insert word here.] over it and realize he ain't the internet police.

This guy also has no clue how to spam, By using his one 'sandycheeks' account and not registering others to spam it, All Andy and or Mrpijey really has to do is click "Administration Control Panel" type in their passwords, Click Manage Users, type in 'sandycheeks', Check a box and hit Delete and all the spam posts will go away.

Personally I think if we have a limit on which members can create topics per dium, and how many registrations per IP, this should counteract a lot of this crap.

But, that's not my descision to make.

Spammers are the trash from the internet, They're bassicaly trolls sitting on a chair trying to make a point by spamming forums.
That ain't right, i wish there was something that we could do.

i think it could be someone who wanted access to FTP but posted random rubbish and got banned / wasn't given access so he is now trying to seek revenge on a innocent community

Theese Spammers aren't spamming for the ftp acesses they're spamming to [censored] us off.

oh , 2 more wonderfull spam topics just came up , deleted before i could report them , when will this idiot give up ?

When this individual realises that he's getting nowhere and moves on. Simple as that. Could be weeks, could be months. Either way he thinks he has the upper hand but he really doesn't.

To put this straight: You are losing hours of your miserable life and we are losing energy near 0.0001 for some clicks to delete all your useless work. You're the sucker and fool.
Lucky us