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 PostPost subject: Re: What Size Hard Drive do you have?        Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:11 am 
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I understand the principle, but it seems pretty pointless for a small increase in speed and decrease in seek time. If you want performance, buy an SSD, that's where it's all at these days especially if you go with PCI-e SSD's. You can expect transfer speeds in excess of 750MB/s with a decent one.

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 PostPost subject: Re: What Size Hard Drive do you have?        Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:37 am 
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The only reason you lose space is due to the file system reserving the space for it's own needs.



Also because manufacturers calculate size in Metric (Power of 1000) where as the operating system calculates it in Binary (Power of 1024)

Manufacturers are beginning to put the Binary HDD size in very small writing on the HDD now


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 PostPost subject: Re: What Size Hard Drive do you have?        Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:19 pm 
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Well that too, but you do lose some in the file system too.

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 PostPost subject: Re: What Size Hard Drive do you have?        Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:28 pm 
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Well that too, but you do lose some in the file system too.



Yea that's true, after a format you lose even more

But take for example my 1TB HDD, Windows reports it as 931GB, thats a huge loss because of conflicting standards

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 PostPost subject: Re: What Size Hard Drive do you have?        Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:55 pm 
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I assume that is pretty big for an old Windows Vista box from 2007.

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 PostPost subject: Re: What Size Hard Drive do you have?        Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:24 pm 
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250 GB WD Scorpio Blue

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Internal in netbook:
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External: 2 x 1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F3

totally 4.8 TB, atm enough for me :)

How long have you had that seagate for? ive went through 4 of those drives within this year.

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 PostPost subject: Re: What Size Hard Drive do you have?        Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:50 pm 
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Shadowww wrote:
Internal in main tower:
1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F3
640 GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.11
500 GB WD Scorpio Blue
250 GB WD Scorpio Blue

Internal in notebook:
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Internal in netbook:
160 GB WD something

External: 2 x 1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F3

totally 4.8 TB, atm enough for me :)

How long have you had that seagate for? ive went through 4 of those drives within this year.

Wasn't there a firmware update for the 7200.11 due to a high failure rate?

Also, this might be handy:
http://sites.google.com/site/seagatefix/


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 PostPost subject: Re: What Size Hard Drive do you have?        Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:51 pm 
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For certain drives there was, but it wasn't because the drives were failing it's because under certain conditions they would become "bricked". I wouldn't trust a Seagate with anything these days after losing 6 drives in 3 months (all less than 1 month old each).

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 PostPost subject: Re: What Size Hard Drive do you have?        Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 11:36 pm 
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Andy wrote:
I understand the principle, but it seems pretty pointless for a small increase in speed and decrease in seek time. If you want performance, buy an SSD, that's where it's all at these days especially if you go with PCI-e SSD's. You can expect transfer speeds in excess of 750MB/s with a decent one.

Yeah, donate me a few hundred more and we have a deal :)

I do get your point though, but it's very easy to go back to any size whenever I want.
Again, this is just curious testing and so far the results seem to be true, this is a lot faster this way.


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 PostPost subject: Re: What Size Hard Drive do you have?        Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:36 am 
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1x 1.2 Gb. IDE (??? RPM)-Western Digital

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40 20 Gb. IDE (5400 RPM)-Quantum

The oldest working hard drive I own is a Seagate 10 Mb. I have never had a Seagate crash. (I have had 6 Western Digital crashes!)


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 PostPost subject: Re: What Size Hard Drive do you have?        Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:52 am 
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Andy wrote:
For certain drives there was, but it wasn't because the drives were failing it's because under certain conditions they would become "bricked". I wouldn't trust a Seagate with anything these days after losing 6 drives in 3 months (all less than 1 month old each).


Fair enough, though I'd still class it as a "failure" since the drive is unusable by average end-user standards. :wink:

Every manufacturer has their bad series of drives.

IBM 75GXP
Quantum CX
Quantum Empire 1080
Seagate 7200.11
Maxtor 5T0XXH6
---(add yours here)--- *hehe*

I've seen many consistent & common failures of various series of drives over the last 15 years. I still swear by Hitachi (formerly IBM HDs). Personally, I don't trust WDs.

I guess it depends on each person's personal experience. I've looked over many forums to find nearly every manufacturer torn to shreds by those who've had bad experiences.

IMHO hings went south around 2000 when entry level HDs went from 3-5 year warranties to 12 months. Several manufacturers went "belly-up" and/or were bought out by competitors. Quantum, Maxtor, Conner, IBM etc.

I cringe these days to see cheap USB-2 externals for USD$83. What quality are we getting for that? :OD


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 PostPost subject: Re: What Size Hard Drive do you have?        Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:54 am 
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Hitachi haven't done that badly, their modern drives seem very good. However I still swear by Samsung who have an outstanding record so far. Their only let down is the lower than most warranty of 3 years. WD offer 5 years on all of their drives. I'm unsure about other brands.

You'd be surprised but most externals are a variety of brands, so it's hit or miss whether you get a good one. If you want a guaranteed brand, make sure you buy an external that is branded so.

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 PostPost subject: Re: What Size Hard Drive do you have?        Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 2:30 pm 
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 PostPost subject: Re: What Size Hard Drive do you have?        Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:50 am 
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Buck wrote:
Andy wrote:
The only reason you lose space is due to the file system reserving the space for it's own needs.

Indeed, but don't forget that Hard Drive manufacturers also like to calculate that 1Kilobyte is 1000bytes, rather than the reality of 1024bytes. :-@

So for 160GB :

160,000,000,000Bytes /1024 = 156,250,000KBytes or 156.25GigaBytes

and a 1.5TB

1,500,000,000,000Bytes /1024 = 1,464,843,750KBytes or 1.464TeraBytes

:cry:


Actually, for a 160 GB Hard Drive, it's (160 GB)10^9(2^-30)(GiB)(GB)^-1 ~ 149.01 GiB
And for a 1.5 TB Hard Drive, it's (1.5 TB)10^12(2^-40)(TiB)(TB)^-1 ~ 1.36 TiB


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 PostPost subject: Re: What Size Hard Drive do you have?        Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:00 am 
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Then I have a 60gb drive in my PS3 that needs an upgrade as has like 80mb of space on it :?

And an external 500gb laptop sized Buffalo 5400 drive.

Only ever had 1 drive fail. A 10gb drive from 1999. And that died some time in 2005/2006.


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 PostPost subject: Re: What Size Hard Drive do you have?        Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:11 pm 
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 PostPost subject: Re: What Size Hard Drive do you have?        Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 7:25 pm 
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 PostPost subject: Re: What Size Hard Drive do you have?        Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:37 am 
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On my desktop, I have a 750GB SATA2 that has around 300GB free. How I managed to use a PC with a 15GB I still don't understand.

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 PostPost subject: Re: What Size Hard Drive do you have?        Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 7:22 am 
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On my desktop, I have a 750GB SATA2 that has around 300GB free. How I managed to use a PC with a 15GB I still don't understand.


How I ever used a PC without a hard drive I still don't understand. :OD


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How I ever used a PC without a hard drive I still don't understand.


By booting it from either removable media, an optical disk, or a floppy disk maybe (or from a network)?


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How I ever used a PC without a hard drive I still don't understand.


By booting it from either removable media, an optical disk, or a floppy disk maybe (or from a network)?



Heh, try a cassette. *hehe*


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Plenty of storage space for betas, and anything else I'd want within the next two years of so. :OD

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