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 PostPost subject: Multiplayer games w/o server        Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:35 pm 
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I was thinking about making a multiplayer game in HTML5/CSS3. I have enough experience using javascript and html5 to do this, but I'm really bad at the server side stuff , so I was thinking:
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A multiplayer game can be played using 2 pc's in the same local network or over the Internet through a web server. Wouldn't it be possible to have 2 pc's connect to each other over the internet without a server? 1 PC would act as both a client and the host(~server) and the other would just be a client.


Is this possible and how would you do it?

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 PostPost subject: Re: Multiplayer games w/o server        Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 11:23 am 
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BAV0 wrote:
My wonderfull mind wrote:
A multiplayer game can be played using 2 pc's in the same local network or over the Internet through a web server. Wouldn't it be possible to have 2 pc's connect to each other over the internet without a server? 1 PC would act as both a client and the host(~server) and the other would just be a client.



So basically you still have one server laying around :)
That makes this deployment no different than an ordinary webserver-based application.

If you plan to use html5/js, your communication primitives are based on XMLHttpRequest, which is meant for client-server communications. That, by design.

You will need some server-side support, perhaps minimal, from your language of choice.
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 PostPost subject: Re: Multiplayer games w/o server        Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 11:53 am 
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neta wrote:
BAV0 wrote:
My wonderfull mind wrote:
A multiplayer game can be played using 2 pc's in the same local network or over the Internet through a web server. Wouldn't it be possible to have 2 pc's connect to each other over the internet without a server? 1 PC would act as both a client and the host(~server) and the other would just be a client.



So basically you still have one server laying around :)
That makes this deployment no different than an ordinary webserver-based application.

If you plan to use html5/js, your communication primitives are based on XMLHttpRequest, which is meant for client-server communications. That, by design.

You will need some server-side support, perhaps minimal, from your language of choice.

The client/server PC wouldn't be mine, it would be the pc of the person that starts he game and invites his friends, my server would only be used to serve the html-page and the js.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Multiplayer games w/o server        Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 12:58 pm 
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I think it could not possible until you programming a game with other programming languages (e.g. Java, C++, VB).
They provides 'socket connection' between LAN clients or computers on the Internet. But HTML and JS are not.
Note that HTML is not a programming language, it's markup language ;) .
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 PostPost subject: Re: Multiplayer games w/o server        Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 3:13 pm 
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I know that html is not a programming language, first lesson in html: html=Hyper Text Markup Language. ;)
I was hoping something similar to java/c++/vb was possible in javascript, but if it can't be done, it cant be done!
Thanks for your help anyway :D

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 PostPost subject: Re: Multiplayer games w/o server        Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 3:09 pm 
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While the new standards are not ready, we have to use a bit of Flash, and recommend that users use a specific browser (for this type of application).

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 PostPost subject: Re: Multiplayer games w/o server        Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:23 am 
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I believe this could theoretically be done with HTML5 and web sockets, it's certainly something I would personally like to look into more as it seems like an incredibly useful feature and could replace Flash in many areas.
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