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 PostPost subject: Vista Starter Issues        Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:34 pm 
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I have this old P4 Dual Core 3.0 GHZ desktop, not bad for such an old machine.
I found out, Vista had a starter edition, so for the fun of it I decided to install it on the desktop cause let's face it; Vista's look still had a nice appeal to it.

Well, There is no audio, and despite my best efforts I can't seem to find any audio drivers that work, any suggestions? It came with WinXP

Also. I'm thinking for the hell of it, I'm going to install Win7.
Now, I installed Win7 Ultimate x64 on a netbook. I was wondering if this desktop was capable of such a thing. It has hyperthreading.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Vista Starter Issues        Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:41 pm 
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Upgrade XP to Vista maybe by using Vista Basic. Starter has too many limits like only allowing you to run 3 applications at time.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Vista Starter Issues        Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:44 pm 
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It no longer has XP on it. (XP crashed long before I installed Vista Starter) Is Vista Basic slower than Win7 Home? Cause if so, I'd much rather 7 over Vista.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Vista Starter Issues        Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:48 pm 
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Ok, try Windows 7! It may work even better :P

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 PostPost subject: Re: Vista Starter Issues        Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:04 pm 
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Aha. But there's no suggestions to finding the audio plugin?

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 PostPost subject: Re: Vista Starter Issues        Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:08 pm 
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 PostPost subject: Re: Vista Starter Issues        Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:35 pm 
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 PostPost subject: Re: Vista Starter Issues        Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:50 pm 
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It's Medion, but I've already downloaded the driver from their site. It doesn't work.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Vista Starter Issues        Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:33 pm 
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Have you used Device Manager and located the inf file for it to install Manually?

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 PostPost subject: Re: Vista Starter Issues        Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:46 pm 
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Emmons455 wrote:
It's Medion, but I've already downloaded the driver from their site. It doesn't work.

More information, please. Does it give an error? Tried using compatability mode?

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Have you used Device Manager and located the inf file for it to install Manually?

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 PostPost subject: Re: Vista Starter Issues        Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:10 pm 
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First of all, give us more details. Full spec listing please such as the motherboard itself (a quick look in Everest Home Edition will do the trick or your trusty screwdriver will). Tell us the sound controller too, I may have some spare drivers somewhere...

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 PostPost subject: Re: Vista Starter Issues        Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:12 pm 
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Try to install driver manually.... use XP drivers and put on folder, browse to this folder and finish installation...
Many times Xp drivers working on Windows 7 (manually mode)


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 PostPost subject: Re: Vista Starter Issues        Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 6:39 am 
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first of all, I would recommend you to return to XP. because 7 and Vista are resource hungry OSes(tried installing both in an Pentium 4 2.26 and 1,25 gig of RAM, none capable to run as smooth as XP SP3.).
to get sound? try fetching those drivers via Device Manager. It sometimes worked like a charm finding your drivers...


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 PostPost subject: Re: Vista Starter Issues        Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 2:21 pm 
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Christopherstan wrote:
first of all, I would recommend you to return to XP. because 7 and Vista are resource hungry OSes(tried installing both in an Pentium 4 2.26 and 1,25 gig of RAM, none capable to run as smooth as XP SP3.).


If you would have read the first post:
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I found out, Vista had a starter edition, so for the fun of it I decided to install it on the desktop cause let's face it; Vista's look still had a nice appeal to it.

You would have found out the guy was doing this for fun.

And don't advise people to return to a 10 year old OS. NT 6 is far better than XP in a lot of ways.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Vista Starter Issues        Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:22 pm 
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You can go for Vista/7 Home Basic they can be great OS's on tight resources ;)


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I'd say stick with XP. Vista and 7 are both much slower then XP. I've been trying to install XP on my HP Mini 110 and it won't recognize my hard drive, so I'm forced to stick with Vista or 7. Consider yourself lucky you're able to run XP at all ;)

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 PostPost subject: Re: Vista Starter Issues        Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:59 am 
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linuxlove wrote:
Christopherstan wrote:
first of all, I would recommend you to return to XP. because 7 and Vista are resource hungry OSes(tried installing both in an Pentium 4 2.26 and 1,25 gig of RAM, none capable to run as smooth as XP SP3.).


If you would have read the first post:
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I found out, Vista had a starter edition, so for the fun of it I decided to install it on the desktop cause let's face it; Vista's look still had a nice appeal to it.

You would have found out the guy was doing this for fun.

And don't advise people to return to a 10 year old OS. NT 6 is far better than XP in a lot of ways.


whoops, missed that line...
he did this for fun? then get Home Basic for decent use(starter editions have major limitations, some removed in 7.)
NT 6 does better than XP in many ways, I admit. But it has one bad thing: inability to run decently on low hardware resource, such as the Pentium 4 family(socket 478, 775 performs slightly better)


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 PostPost subject: Re: Vista Starter Issues        Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 3:05 am 
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NT 6 does better than XP in many ways, I admit. But it has one bad thing: inability to run decently on low hardware resource, such as the Pentium 4 family(socket 478, 775 performs slightly better)

Eh, I've run Windows 7 on a Socket 478 Pentium 4 with only 1.5GB RAM and it did plenty well enough.

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I'd say stick with XP. Vista and 7 are both much slower then XP. I've been trying to install XP on my HP Mini 110 and it won't recognize my hard drive, so I'm forced to stick with Vista or 7. Consider yourself lucky you're able to run XP at all ;)


It needs SATA drivers, one of the downfalls of a 10 year old OS. Installing XP on a netbook can be a pain. I just upgraded a Compaq Mini 110 to Windows 7 and it seems to run just as well as it ran XP on only 1GB of RAM. The nice thing about 7 is its optimized for the netbook/laptop hardware and it comes with SATA drivers and almost all the other drivers. The Windows 7 sleep mode, wifi connection window, etc all make the on the go netbook experience so much nicer than XP.

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spunker88 wrote:
Cursed Hax wrote:
I'd say stick with XP. Vista and 7 are both much slower then XP. I've been trying to install XP on my HP Mini 110 and it won't recognize my hard drive, so I'm forced to stick with Vista or 7. Consider yourself lucky you're able to run XP at all ;)


It needs SATA drivers, one of the downfalls of a 10 year old OS. Installing XP on a netbook can be a pain. I just upgraded a Compaq Mini 110 to Windows 7 and it seems to run just as well as it ran XP on only 1GB of RAM. The nice thing about 7 is its optimized for the netbook/laptop hardware and it comes with SATA drivers and almost all the other drivers. The Windows 7 sleep mode, wifi connection window, etc all make the on the go netbook experience so much nicer than XP.


Even Vista runs smooth on a netbook so I don't see the reason to not to upgrade.
Personally I wiped XP when I got my netbook.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Vista Starter Issues        Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:29 am 
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linuxlove wrote:
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NT 6 does better than XP in many ways, I admit. But it has one bad thing: inability to run decently on low hardware resource, such as the Pentium 4 family(socket 478, 775 performs slightly better)

Eh, I've run Windows 7 on a Socket 478 Pentium 4 with only 1.5GB RAM and it did plenty well enough.

clockspeed of the processor please....
mine is 2.26 and its as slow as a snail in the Windows 7 Home Premium environment...(with 1,25GB of RAM)
did well on XP though, although I'll buy a new stick of RAM (to get 2GB) and a graphic card(current, a superweak S3 onboard graphic, it struggled to even run counter-strike 1.6...), to see if Windows 7 can get more speed out of it...
and did you use SATA/IDE? I think my 7 year old IDE was the cause of the slowdown.

for the thread starter: sorry, forgot you got a dual-core P4 3.0Ghz CPU...
get a decent IDE(or SATA, in any chance, your system might have 1 or 2 plug for it) drive, make sure you have a good GPU(want aero? then no onboards, and just be sure the current GPU can handle mid-low games decently) and you should be ready.
and x64? just make sure you are ready for it...(you have the drivers, utilities, and softwares for your computer available for it, it's not easy to find with, especially that you're planning to run x64 on an ageing system...)


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clockspeed of the processor please....
mine is 2.26 and its as slow as a snail in the Windows 7 Home Premium environment...(with 1,25GB of RAM)

The clockspeed was 2.8GHz. I also have run Windows 7 on a 2.2 (or maybe it was 2.6) GHz Pentium 4 with only 1GB RAM and even that performed quite well.

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and did you use SATA/IDE? I think my 7 year old IDE was the cause of the slowdown.

No SATA, just IDE.

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clockspeed of the processor please....
mine is 2.26 and its as slow as a snail in the Windows 7 Home Premium environment...(with 1,25GB of RAM)

The clockspeed was 2.8GHz. I also have run Windows 7 on a 2.2 (or maybe it was 2.6) GHz Pentium 4 with only 1GB RAM and even that performed quite well.

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and did you use SATA/IDE? I think my 7 year old IDE was the cause of the slowdown.

No SATA, just IDE.


if it is 2.6 and above, then maybe its good for me to stick with XP for my P4 system...
if it is indeed 2.2, i'll look to some new drives(mine is 7 years old, and may fail soon...)
or, maybe its because my drive was just 40GB? I would like to upgrade to Windows 7, if it is possible to run fast enough in the computer...
and do you mean decently, as in explorer being stable for long-term use? in my computer, it stops working frequently, and quite irresponsive(it took a pretty long time to load a folder)....
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how many computers do you have(it looked like you got everything from Intel 386 to Sandy Bridge...)???

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