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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 8 to mount ISOs?        Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 11:53 am 
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I think that it is a nice funktion but a lot of people will use deamontools because they want to avoid protections.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 8 to mount ISOs?        Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:57 pm 
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That's a good function, Linux had it already.... So again a point for Linux :P


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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 8 to mount ISOs?        Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:07 pm 
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Great new feature! Is this already available in the leaked windows 8 versions?


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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 8 to mount ISOs?        Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 6:51 pm 
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Great new feature! Is this already available in the leaked windows 8 versions?


Yes the feature is available in the leaked builds


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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 8 to mount ISOs?        Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:12 pm 
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All microsoft are doing is putting features that 3rd party's have been doing for years and introducing them natively. Not a huge step up if i'm honest.

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.PDF reader
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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 8 to mount ISOs?        Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:58 pm 
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All microsoft are doing is putting features that 3rd party's have been doing for years and introducing them natively. Not a huge step up if i'm honest.

e.g

.PDF reader
.ISO mounting


Not a huge step indeed, but a welcomed one


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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 8 to mount ISOs?        Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:17 pm 
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Fallen Souls wrote:
All microsoft are doing is putting features that 3rd party's have been doing for years and introducing them natively. Not a huge step up if i'm honest.

e.g

.PDF reader
.ISO mounting


Why does any feature need to be "huge"? A feature is a feature is a feature. The more they add the better. If they did everything from the beginning what would there be to develop today? :P

However, I disagree with PDF support. Unless they stay on top of it with lighting speed and push updates out immediately, it'll suck. We quit trying to use 3rd party PDF solutions because we would keep getting PDFs (from vendors) that were not supported as they used new Acrobat features. It would take MONTHS for the 3rd party to update their software.

So...here's to hoping it wont suck!


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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 8 to mount ISOs?        Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:36 pm 
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As long it can open ISOs, I am happy. Daemon Tools was baned from my PC years ago and replaced by Virtual Clone DVD (just because Clone DVD didn't needed a reboot to work).

And for "protected" DVDs:
1st: Its illegal in many countrys anyways
2nd: No CD Cracks beat Virtual DVDs anyways .... (they also often fix bugs, like the 4 GB Ram bug in FoC and such)


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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 8 to mount ISOs?        Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:09 pm 
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Why does any feature need to be "huge"?

because otherwise its plain useless addon

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And for "protected" DVDs:
1st: Its illegal in many countrys anyways

which obviously doesn't stop you from using them

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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 8 to mount ISOs?        Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:14 pm 
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Barabba wrote:
because otherwise its plain useless addon


That's a bunch of bull. That can certainly be your opinion however as a blanket statement it would be baseless and complete bunk.

Integration is always welcome. Third party more times then not costs more money, requires additional support and costs time. If none of those matter to you then good for you. They matter to many other people.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 8 to mount ISOs?        Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:16 pm 
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do I really have to write how ridiculous your statement is?

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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 8 to mount ISOs?        Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:29 pm 
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Barabba wrote:
do I really have to write how ridiculous your statement is?


Go ahead, this should be interesting. Tell us all why adding a convenient feature is "useless". Before you do:

use·less
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1.
of no use; not serving the purpose or any purpose; unavailing or futile: It is useless to reason with him.
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without useful qualities; of no practical good: a useless person; a useless gadget.

So, for example, explain to everyone how integrated PDF and ISO handling is " not serving the purpose or any purpose".


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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 8 to mount ISOs?        Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:31 pm 
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christ how many immature brats are on this forum...

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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 8 to mount ISOs?        Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:48 pm 
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Barabba wrote:
christ how many immature brats are on this forum...


That's what I thought.

Now back on topic. Being able to mount VHDs out of the box has been a life saver. Seeing as how I work on over 50 machines. Having to install 3rd party to all those machines would be very time consuming and just something else to manage and support. Not having to think about or worry about such things is a major time saver.

The ironic part is, we've had ISO support on all our servers for a rather long time now since most of our stuff is virtualized. You just attach an ISO as your optical drive. Done. However it'll be nice to be able to ditch that piece of virtual hardware and simply attach an ISO at will. Especially since you have to stop the VM every time you want to change back and forth.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 8 to mount ISOs?        Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:34 pm 
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ok I'll go "nice guy" approach even if you were a [censored]

firstly, you nagged about costs and time and what not about 3rd party apps
well if you already have a company, you're better off to BUY already proven product
than hoping Win8's either PDF reader or ISO mounter will work properly from start
+ to this, what makes you think you won't need support from MS side with THEIR product(s)?

secondly why limit yourself to just ISO format or VHD format when there are apps that do alot more

thirdly there are free PDF readers, and I know/use 1 (no its not crap foxit) which IMO is quite good
and frankly doubt microsofts integrated solution you praise so much will beat anytime soon

from MS side, its understandable to integrate things to impress audience, but is bit too late at the end
not only from Apple side they lost, but as told many times, other such apps exist for more than decade

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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 8 to mount ISOs?        Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:49 pm 
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Wow, you want another butt kicking? Ok...

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firstly, you nagged about costs and time and what not about 3rd party apps
well if you already have a company, you're better off to BUY already proven product

I already explained this. Are you blind? Did you even bother reading? If not then your nothing but a troll looking for a fight. Did you read as to how many machines I need to work on? Do the math. Now do the math on cost of supporting that software. Not only that but ISO mounting apps are fairly obtrusive and not something I would trust on a high availability server.

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than hoping Win8's either PDF reader or ISO mounter will work properly from start

Hoping? Who the hell told you I hoping for anything? It's called testing, ever hear of it? Why on earth would I roll out anything prior to testing? Wow kid, you have a lot of experience you need to obtain before rolling with the big boys.

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+ to this, what makes you think you won't need support from MS side with THEIR product(s)?

WTF are you talking about? What does support from a vendor has to do with anything?

1. If you are referring to my comment about support I was talking about "ME" supporting the installs. Do you have any clue as to what that means? Do you have any business experience at all when it comes to IT? I highly doubt it. You seem very ignorant about this entire subject.

2. The fact that you thought, even for a second, that the ISO mounting feature would ever require a support call to MS is laughable at best.

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secondly why limit yourself to just ISO format or VHD format when there are apps that do alot more

Why put more into a machine that you don't need? You're just asking for trouble. We have ISOs and VHDs. Period. Nothing else. Adding more for the sake of more is a boneheaded move. Once again, I refer to your lack of business sense.

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thirdly there are free PDF readers, and I know/use 1 (no its not crap foxit) which IMO is quite good
and frankly doubt microsofts integrated solution you praise so much will beat anytime soon

Thank you for this. I have now proven that you can't read for squat. You are nothing but a pathetic troll on this board whining and crying at people for your own entertainment.

1. I already explained the free options which PROVES you are responding to posts without even reading them.

2. I already gave a negative comment towards the PDF support from MS for the same reason as #1. Proving yet again that you are responding to posts without even reading them.

Take a hike troll. Go find someone else to fight with. The fact that you aren't even reading my posts makes saying anything more to you worthless.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 8 to mount ISOs?        Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:53 pm 
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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 8 to mount ISOs?        Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:55 pm 
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Calm down gosh. We can all get along nicely :)


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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 8 to mount ISOs?        Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:57 pm 
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Calm down gosh. We can all get along nicely :)


I'm done wasting time on someone who starts with "mature"
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I'm even amaized that kind of person would work anywhere for serious money :|

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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 8 to mount ISOs?        Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:00 pm 
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Calm down gosh. We can all get along nicely :)


You and I can. However, as you can see, that troll is still going.

So...what do you think about the features?


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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 8 to mount ISOs?        Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:02 pm 
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Calm down gosh. We can all get along nicely :)


I'm done wasting time on someone who starts with "mature"
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Wow, you want another butt kicking


I'm even amaized that kind of person would work anywhere for serious money :|



To be honest, you aren't in the right and neither is he. Just stop continuing it and leave it. Go your seperate ways, it helps.

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You and I can. However, as you can see, that troll is still going.

So...what do you think about the features?


If you can't get along with other people. Then you most certantly can't get along with me.

Stop being so argumentative, always wanting the last post.

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If you can't get along with other people. Then you most certantly can't get along with me.

Stop being so argumentative, always wanting the last post.

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I think most of the new features are rubbish. I'm only interested in the start screen which is locked due to shsxs.dll


Ah I see. So you're as bad as the other guy. Well, by all means go on with your bad self. Such a shame too. There's suppose to be good conversation to had around these parts. Too bad people have to have such bad attitudes. Good day to you!


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Ah I see. So you're as bad as the other guy. Well, by all means go on with your bad self. Such a shame too. There's suppose to be good conversation to had around these parts. Too bad people have to have such bad attitudes. Good day to you!


No, I'm not as bad as anyone, it seems that you just are the one continuously provoking other users to flame you.

It's not going to work with me, I'm not that sort of person. My attitude is quite alright thanks, and Bye to you too.


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Ah I see. So you're as bad as the other guy. Well, by all means go on with your bad self. Such a shame too. There's suppose to be good conversation to had around these parts. Too bad people have to have such bad attitudes. Good day to you!


No, I'm not as bad as anyone, it seems that you just are the one continuously provoking other users to flame you.

It's not going to work with me, I'm not that sort of person. My attitude is quite alright thanks, and Bye to you too.


Yeah right and you base that information on what? This one guy? I hope you realize you are using fake information to draw a fake conclusion.

Ah well. Once again, such a shame. Also, for someone that wanted it to stop....gee, you sure keep going. I smell hypocrisy.

So...does anyone want to talk about the features? Or is this troll nonsense the only direction this thread can go in? Come on, I beg you all for a real conversation.

In fact, to start it off right, if I see anyone continuing this nonsense, I'll report their post.


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Yeah right and you base that information on what? This one guy? I hope you realize you are using fake information to draw a fake conclusion.

Ah well. Once again, such a shame. Also, for someone that wanted it to stop....gee, you sure keep going. I smell hypocrisy.

So...does anyone want to talk about the features? Or is this troll nonsense the only direction this thread can go in? Come on, I beg you all for a real conversation.

In fact, to start it off right, if I see anyone continuing this nonsense, I'll report their post.



I don't understand what you mean by me using "fake" information. I am not using "fake" information. How can information be "fake", could you please quote me to show me so I can understand more?

Also, what's a 'shame'? I don't know why you are turning things around.

Furthermore, you can report me. I have a right to talk here. Your reports will only affect yourself.


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