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 PostPost subject: Re: Microsoft Kills Aero for Release Preview        Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:39 pm 
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Well, but the desktop IS sort of an App...... (Maybe I'm wrong)

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 PostPost subject: Re: Microsoft Kills Aero for Release Preview        Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:41 pm 
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Well, but the desktop IS sort of an App...... (Maybe I'm wrong)

What? :o


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 PostPost subject: Re: Microsoft Kills Aero for Release Preview        Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:44 pm 
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Well, Yeah, sure, it IS an App. A desktop app built on the kernel..

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 PostPost subject: Re: Microsoft Kills Aero for Release Preview        Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:47 pm 
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Well, Yeah, sure, it IS an App. A desktop app built on the kernel..

But desktop is the main environment for Windows. You can almost say Windows=Desktop. Metro is just for smaller Apps for tablets. You can't really say Desktop is an app for Metro...


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 PostPost subject: Re: Microsoft Kills Aero for Release Preview        Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:14 pm 
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Desktop is just a folder with no UI at the top and the ability to set a background picture. So you're looking at the explorer the whole time...

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 PostPost subject: Re: Microsoft Kills Aero for Release Preview        Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:25 pm 
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What people are forgetting, is that the theme alone is just one small portion of the graphical user interface. And even the graphical user interface, likewise, does not make up the entire operating system - just one part of it.

The problem with people "judging" Windows 8 by its "looks" alone is that, I don't see how looks could possibly define the operating system itself in terms of reliability, stability, usability, and, all in all (perhaps most of all), actual functionality.

And also, as has been pointed out before, no one is forcing you to use the Metro apps or anything like that. Personally, I thought that Windows 2000 and Windows XP were excellent when they were new, but that didn't mean that I simply had to make full use out of every single feature contained within those versions of Windows.

By the way, I seriously mean this to be of no offence to anyone, so I hope that it doesn't sound as if I'm insulting people (which I'm really not).

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 PostPost subject: Re: Microsoft Kills Aero for Release Preview        Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:27 am 
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Desktop is just a folder with no UI at the top and the ability to set a background picture. So you're looking at the explorer the whole time...

I thought we were talking about Windows, as in what you get when you click on "Desktop" icon in Metro. Although you get to the system from any other Windows Program, but the point was that the Metro tiles are not the only part of Windows 8, and not even the major part of Windows 8. In my opinion you can't say that Windows 8 looks like Windows 1.xx because Metro apps can't be resized etc. The original comment was being sarcastic in my opinion.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Microsoft Kills Aero for Release Preview        Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:32 am 
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Er...Metro tiles are the major part of Windows 8. That's what makes up the Metro UI, which is clearly an important factor of Windows 8...

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 PostPost subject: Re: Microsoft Kills Aero for Release Preview        Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:37 am 
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Er...Metro tiles are the major part of Windows 8. That's what makes up the Metro UI, which is clearly an important factor of Windows 8...

I said major part. Not important factor. Metro UI isn't the major part of Windows 8, Windows is-thats what the majority of programs run on. If you disabled Metro, you would still have most of Windows 8 (if you could, in my opinion)..


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 PostPost subject: Re: Microsoft Kills Aero for Release Preview        Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:39 am 
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It IS the major part.... If not why not Microsoft continue to sell Windows 7????

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 PostPost subject: Re: Microsoft Kills Aero for Release Preview        Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:44 am 
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It IS the major part.... If not why not Microsoft continue to sell Windows 7????

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What? The major part of Windows 8 is Windows, and that has been improved from Windows 7. Metro was just an addition 8-)

Its like asking why did they make any progress on Windows since Windows 1.xx, since none of the versions have had Metro.


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The big problem: Metro kills Aero, and Aero is a good thing and is the major part of Windows 7. So why can't we say Metro is an important part of Windows 8?

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BTW, john11, let's stop our arguments across the two topics, or we'll get a warning.

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The big problem: Metro kills Aero, and Aero is a good thing and is the major part of Windows 7. So why can't we say Metro is an important part of Windows 8?

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BTW, john11, let's stop our arguments across the two topics, or we'll get a warning.

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I say it is an important part. But not the major part. I think we should stop it accross all topics.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Microsoft Kills Aero for Release Preview        Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:38 pm 
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love it... windows 8 looks super. its awesome! aero was looking you know a little antiquitated.

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I had an crappy notebook that doesn't supported Aero Glass in Windows 7, instead of this, I had to use Windows Basic theme, what a ugly theme! Now, with Windows 8... yeah, Windows 8 will not be as Windows Vista, as some say.


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I had an crappy notebook that doesn't supported Aero Glass in Windows 7, instead of this, I had to use Windows Basic theme, what a ugly theme! Now, with Windows 8... yeah, Windows 8 will not be as Windows Vista, as some say.

Actually, Windows 8's new theme uses the same underlying technology as Windows Aero (DWM) did, with the same exact system requirements. So if your system couldn't handle Aero, it can't handle this either.
The "upside" is that Windows 8 uses the CPU to render the theme if your graphics card isn't up to the challenge, which will actually sow down your computer in a potentially noticeable way.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Microsoft Kills Aero for Release Preview        Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:28 am 
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Now, with Windows 8... yeah, Windows 8 will not be as Windows Vista, as some say.

People who said that are absolutely right - it will be worse.

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I had an crappy notebook that doesn't supported Aero Glass in Windows 7, instead of this, I had to use Windows Basic theme, what a ugly theme! Now, with Windows 8... yeah, Windows 8 will not be as Windows Vista, as some say.

There's a registry hack or something of the like that can enable it even on the crappiest of notebooks. I never had to use it myself, but I thought it was interesting nonetheless.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Microsoft Kills Aero for Release Preview        Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:01 pm 
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I had an crappy notebook that doesn't supported Aero Glass in Windows 7, instead of this, I had to use Windows Basic theme, what a ugly theme! Now, with Windows 8... yeah, Windows 8 will not be as Windows Vista, as some say.

There's a registry hack or something of the like that can enable it even on the crappiest of notebooks. I never had to use it myself, but I thought it was interesting nonetheless.

The registry hack you're referring to only worked in the early Vista betas. I wish it were possible though for Windows Vista/7 to have a CPU renderer like Windows 8 does. I used to be in the same boat, I have a 2003 HP laptop, so I too was looking for ways to activate Aero on it, without the proper support.


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