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 PostPost subject: Screenshots of unleaked DOOM alphas.        Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:03 am 
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http://toastytech.com/dooma/alphapics1.html
http://toastytech.com/dooma/alphapics2.html
http://toastytech.com/dooma/alphapics3.html

Seems like that early HUD was (at least partially) functional at one point in development.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Screenshots of unleaked DOOM alphas.        Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:13 am 
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Are these really unleaked?
Several Doom alphas *were* released.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Screenshots of unleaked DOOM alphas.        Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:18 am 
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They look a lot like doom 0.2 & 0.4 ...

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Just check the rest of his site:

http://toastytech.com/dooma/

they are all there.

And Romero has some more fleshed out stuff here:

http://www.rome.ro/lee_killough/versions/

Including a 1.9 downgrade to 1.1!

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 PostPost subject: Re: Screenshots of unleaked DOOM alphas.        Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:46 am 
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louisw3 wrote:
They look a lot like doom 0.2 & 0.4 ...

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Just check the rest of his site:

http://toastytech.com/dooma/

they are all there.

And Romero has some more fleshed out stuff here:

http://www.rome.ro/lee_killough/versions/

Including a 1.9 downgrade to 1.1!


I actually have a copy of Doom 1.1.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Screenshots of unleaked DOOM alphas.        Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:54 am 
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I'm pretty sure these were already posted/common knowledge...

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 PostPost subject: Re: Screenshots of unleaked DOOM alphas.        Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:27 pm 
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Are these really unleaked?
Several Doom alphas *were* released.

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Yes, I already knew about these. I'm just saying those other screenshots appear to be of different builds, which as far as I know, are unleaked.

EDIT: http://www.rome.ro/lee_killough/versions/betashots/

Those screenshots are from around March 1993. DOOM v0.2 was released to testers on February 4 1993, and v0.4 on April 2, so I think those are screenshots of a v0.3 build.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Screenshots of unleaked DOOM alphas.        Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:01 am 
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IIRC there were official pre-release screenshot packs, like DOOMPIX1.EXE, DOOMPIX2.ZIP and DOOMPIX3.ZIP, with shots taken from various builds, not necessarily those that were later released to the public.

BTW, here are official shots from the press release beta build: DOOMSCN5.ZIP

[Edit] OK, according to Hank Leukart's Doom FAQ, the pre-release screenshot packs were as following:
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(1) doompix1.exe (a self-extracting archive)
(2) doom01.zip
(3) doom02.zip
(4) doom03.zip
(5) doom04.zip
(6) doomscn5.zip

The items (2) to (5) are available from Romero's site (and the ones called DOOMPIX*.ZIP I've linked to above are the same thing, only someone renamed them).


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 PostPost subject: Re: Screenshots of unleaked DOOM alphas.        Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:28 am 
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I'm 80% sure these shots were posted about in another thread.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Screenshots of unleaked DOOM alphas.        Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:58 am 
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I miss the "old" HUD :(.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Screenshots of unleaked DOOM alphas.        Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 3:07 pm 
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I'd say Tom Hall's vision of the game with an in-depth storyline was also nice, but probably too much ahead of its time :)


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 PostPost subject: Re: Screenshots of unleaked DOOM alphas.        Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:06 pm 
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No it was an internal team conflict, someone at id said a shooter game with story is like a bad porn film.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Screenshots of unleaked DOOM alphas.        Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:19 pm 
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That, too, but IIRC there was also the fact that attempts at a more realistic depiction of the marine base in levels got less entertaining than the more abstract design of the final game. With the FPS games having gone in the direction of realism since, that sure was "ahead of its time".

BTW, HacX does more realistic environments on the same engine quite nicely :)


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 PostPost subject: Re: Screenshots of unleaked DOOM alphas.        Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:03 pm 
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No it was an internal team conflict, someone at id said a shooter game with story is like a bad porn film.

Oh god, whoever said that must hate Half-Life *hehe*.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Screenshots of unleaked DOOM alphas.        Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:38 pm 
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No it was an internal team conflict, someone at id said a shooter game with story is like a bad porn film.

Oh god, whoever said that must hate Half-Life *hehe*.

That someone was John Carmack, wasn't it? Considering he wrote most of the Half-Life engine, it's hardly the case then :)


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 PostPost subject: Re: Screenshots of unleaked DOOM alphas.        Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 6:08 am 
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He did not write the HL engine, he wrote the Quake engine, which Goldsrc is based on.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Screenshots of unleaked DOOM alphas.        Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:46 pm 
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That someone was John Carmack, wasn't it? Considering he wrote most of the Half-Life engine, it's hardly the case then :)

Didn't John Carmack develop RAGE (for consoles)? I thought that had a storyline, just a very bad one.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Screenshots of unleaked DOOM alphas.        Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:24 pm 
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IvanDSM wrote:
He did not write the HL engine, he wrote the Quake engine, which Goldsrc is based on.

That's why I said "most of the Half-Life engine":
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[GoldSrc] is fundamentally just a heavily modified Quake 1 engine. There are about 50 lines of code from the Quake 2 engine, mostly bugs fixes to hard problems that Carmack found and fixed before we ran into them.

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