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 PostPost subject: Mac OS Emulator        Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 5:16 pm 
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Which Mac OS Emulator is the best and how to install any Mac OS on them?

I wanted to try it out, but i'm only pro in emulating Windows in Windows 8-)

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 PostPost subject: Re: Mac OS Emulator        Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:16 pm 
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(Edited to fix the links. I didn't realize that BBCode doesn't like double-quotes around URLs)

There are many Mac emulators out there. The right choice will depend on what kind of hardware you need to emulate, whether or not you have a Mac ROM image available, and what version of Mac OS you want to run.

A good place to start your search is E-Maculation. You will find links to many different Mac emulators for a variety of platforms. Note that many of them require an image of the ROMs from the model Mac you're trying to emulate. You can perform searches to find people making them available, but since they are protected by copyright, it is only legal if you own the hardware in question (which, of course, undermines many of the reasons for emulation.) There are some emulators, however, which don't require a ROM image.

You should be aware also that Apple doesn't license Mac OS for use on non-Mac hardware. Classic Mac OS will usually install in an emulation environment, but Mac OS X usually won't install without a lot of hacking.

You can get some old copies of Mac OS from Apple's Older Software download page. You can download image files for System 6.0.8, 7.0 and 7.5.3, and the updater to bring 7.5.3 up to version 7.5.5. These will run on 68000-based Macs (and emulators.) I think 7.5.3 will run on a 68030-based Mac as well. For newer versions (including all of those compatible with PowerPC Macs), you can download updaters from Apple but you will need to get the original installer from another source.

A virtual machine environment like VirtualBox can run modern versions of Mac OS X in a VM, but only on Mac hardware. Due to Apple's licensing agreements, all three major publishers of VM software (VirtualBox, VMWare and Parallels) check the host platform and will refuse to allow Mac OS X to install if you don't meet the license terms (Mac hardware, and a server version of the OS for version 10.6 or older.)

Good luck.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Mac OS Emulator        Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:08 pm 
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I don't know why this topic was removed but I see nothing wrong with it, besides the BB code not working for the above links, so I have put it back. Whoever moved this please give me a reason why...

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 PostPost subject: Re: Mac OS Emulator        Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:24 pm 
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It was most likely moved because the information requested can be found in any search engine in about 2 seconds flat. We strongly encourage our members to do some research of their own, and this question was by far too generic and lazy. If it had been a specific question about a specific version etc that is problematic it had been fine, but this was too generic. We're also not an emulation site, plenty of those out there that covers MacOS emulation in heavy detail, these also have thorough guides in how to use the emulators. Also easily found on Google, Bing etc.

Members, try to spend more than 2 microseconds doing basic research before asking generic questions. If you can post on this forum then you can also Google. And if you're a "pro in emulating Windows" then you clearly have the basic skills doing a quick google on finding the best Mac OS emulator and how to use them. I found several guides when trying to install the recent Mac OS betas we got, and it took me less than half a minute to find them. But when you got an error you can't solve, then we'll help you in any way we can.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Mac OS Emulator        Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:25 pm 
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Perhaps so, but there was a useful reply after it so there is no need to move it if the persons question was answered.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Mac OS Emulator        Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 6:59 pm 
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Ok, the new problem is i don't have ROM file. I got Startup Disk and the Floppy Image from BA FTP, but i still need the ROM.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Mac OS Emulator        Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 3:27 am 
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I use Mac v Mini and emaculation you can find some software. You will have to find a Rom your self :)


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 PostPost subject: Re: Mac OS Emulator        Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:34 am 
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The only legal way to get a ROM is to transfer one from a macintosh computer. With a quick google search it is easy to find a ROM for Mac emulation but it is not legal to download and use it. There are tools you can use to transfer the ROM from a macintosh to use for emulation available online that you could use.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Mac OS Emulator        Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:55 pm 
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Yea, the problem is in Poland there's no way to get it. I don't trust EBay. Anyways, why the ROM is illegal? Macintosh is abandoned, so the ROM should be too! I don't get that policy.

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supra107 wrote:
Yea, the problem is in Poland there's no way to get it. I don't trust EBay. Anyways, why the ROM is illegal? Macintosh is abandoned, so the ROM should be too! I don't get that policy.


I know, me neither. It is because they still own the software so it is still considered illegal, even though they are not making any money from this because Apple is not selling those vintage Macintosh computers anymore. You can read more about it here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VMac Unfortunately though, if you cannot get a hold of a Macintosh ROM file, then you will not be able to emulate the Macintosh. Sorry :(

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Since its in the OS cat and not OSX, I figure your trying to emulate OS9 or below?

In that case, I use sheepshaver myself. It doesn't use as much resources as a majority other emulators. I am always looking for a good Emulator though, so if there are better low-resource-running cross-platform compatible Emulators that can run OS9 or lows, let me know.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Mac OS Emulator        Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 4:52 pm 
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It's illegal because the ROM is copyrighted software. Apple has, in the past, been aggressive about that, but my understanding is that it's died down somewhat; still, it's not a great idea. If you have access to an old Mac, it's easy enough to run a ROM dumper to get the image that you can use.


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There is an emulator that doesn't require a Mac ROM or copy of the Macintosh System Software/MacOS, Executor. It is, however, a bit limited, generally not being compatible with much written for system 7 or later.

Since it's been open-sourced, there are a number of interesting things that someone with the time and skills could do with it... Maybe some of its code could be used to replace the ROM requirement in other emulators...


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 PostPost subject: Re: Mac OS Emulator        Posted: Thu May 01, 2014 4:58 pm 
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supra107 wrote:
Yea, the problem is in Poland there's no way to get it. I don't trust EBay. Anyways, why the ROM is illegal? Macintosh is abandoned, so the ROM should be too! I don't get that policy.


The policy is very much understandable. When a software is developed and released by a company, the company that releases it owns all the rights to this software, whether it is new or old (even abandoned). Likewise, Apple still owns all the rights to this ROM, so yes, the only legal way is to extract it from a Macintosh Plus.

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I don't see any problem with the system ROM, it's extremely easy to find online. But if you really want to use it legally then you need to own a Mac yourself and extract it yourself.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Mac OS Emulator        Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 5:08 pm 
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You can use Mini vMac to emulate System 1 to System 7.5... You can build this emulator form source code to customize hardware it emulates. It can emulate up to Macintosh II with 8M RAM... but the sound emulation is not good...
Basilisk II helps you run 68k Mac OS (System 7.x to 8.1) and this emulator is recommended if you wanna get a better experience.
SheepShaver runs PPC based Mac OS (7.5.2 to 9.0.4). You'd better not run Mac OS 9 which crashes often on the emulator. Mac OS 9.1 will not work for SheepShaver has no MPU emulation which is required by Mac OS 9.1.


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If you want to use SheepShaver, and you have a friend who has a PPC/Motorola 68x Mac, you can try extracting the ROM from 'Mac OS ROM Update 1.0' using a program called TomeViewer. So if you do not have an old Mac yourself, but do know somebody who does you can retrive the ROM from the update legally! It does give you a 'New World ROM' though, meaning it will run 8.5-9.2.2 max (9.0.4 because later versions require a MMU, and emulators as of today do not emulate it). For a 'Old World ROM' (every classic Mac OS for PPC up to 9.0.4) you would need to own a Macintosh. Here is the guide.

Also, you should be vary of diffrences between emulators. MiniVMac emulates a specific computer (Mac Plus, Mac SE, Mac II etc.) The screen size and technical parameters are equal to Macintosh it emulates. It's recommended for older Motorola 68x Mac OS systems.

Basillisk II doesn't emulate an entire computer. It only emulates a CPU, ROM and RAM, instead providing drivers for additional stuff (graphics, network etc.) It's recommended for later versions of System 7 + Mac OS 8 (versions that can run on Motorola 68x of course)

SheepShaver emulates a PPC. It doesn't emulate a specific computer, but parts instead. As previously stated, it will run any Mac OS for PPC up to 9.0.4 if you use a 'Old World ROM' or 8.5-9.0.4 if you use a 'New World ROM'.


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I wonder if its possible to even run Mac in Windows with an AMD CPU :(


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