You can make 100 posts in an hour.

I voted YES, because they current entrance posts are not from this time.
When I joined there were less sign-ups and post not contributing, but now there are.

why is 10 in an hour a bad thing there are quite a few threads that could be contributed too

and some people cant donate and SHOULD be rewarded for a huge effort/contribution

Yeah, I don't think VIP should be donate only. That wouldn't be fair to some amazing members we have on this forum.

1.Simply make those 10 ''contributing post'',get the access and never return.
2.Honestly everybody can make 750 non-quality posts in a short time and got the access so there is no huge effort/contribution.Maybe 6 months membership could make sense

thats a very elitist attitude only if you pay money can you have this
being amazing ISN'T about how much you donate its about your contribution and if you contribute something of equal value then you can attain the same thing


yes its a mess that if you donate when you are still a basic user you get instant access
there defiantly needs to be a post count to get it and a minimum post count even if you donate and advance member ship before you can have vip

Quire right; just because a member doesn't donate anything doesn't mean that they should not be a VIP; after all, some of the best members here haven't sent a dime in (See: WinOCM), and they deserve VIP membership more than some of the people who paid.

As for the advanced membership, I think 25 posts is a good level of posts to get in. It's not too high, but it can take a while to get that number of contributing posts, but that's OK as it allows time for the user to get accustomed to the rules & ways of this board.

i would say, raise it to around 15-20. i think 25 is to high.

Yep raise it as then we will only get quality members comming in. Vip should be 750 posts and 1 year time or somthing. That way the people spamming have to wait if they get to 750 way to early.

+1 to what Marcello said (sorry to steal words, I left the credits).

VIP entrance should have a 6-month wait before entry (unless you donate, in which case please, enter, please). Not naming names, but certain individuals got in in a matter of.. few months. I only reached 750 posts about a month or so ago, and I've been here a year plus (though I parted with my cash a while back, so whoops)

1. A time based waiting period is in general a bad idear, because new people that come here looking for a beta, and told that they will have to wait for a long time will just leave again

2. I wonted "no", becauase i dont see the diffrent between how it is now, and what it will be .. i fail to see how more posts will make it better

3. VIP should be people that donate only.. why ?.. because it might get more people to spit in a dollar or two.. i believe that ANYBODY and spare a $ or two..

i think VIP status should be Donation + minimum of 25/50/posts ( choose one ), and now i will tell why : there is NOTHING worse than a 10 to 14 year old brat with a pocket full of money! they are rude, arrogant, they listen to NO ONE and DO NOT FOLLOW RULES,they are the worst kind of people to have on e the forum, let alone in the VIP section, i dont want brats getting into VIP section just because they can afford to donate some of mom/dads money.

Well, I think the poll has spoken for itself with a 48 vs 8 on putting the count up.

With regards to VIP, we put the post count at 750 because if someone is a spammer, they'll never ever reach 750 posts without being removed from the site, so anyone who reaches it is a long term and willing member of the site, and not a drive-by-night style member who only wants FTP access.

By putting the FTP access posts up, it makes it more difficult for members to get access. Now I don't want it to be impossible to get access, I want it so members who are obviously into this type of thing contribute to the site, see what a great resource we are and continue to contribute even after they have gained their access.

Another idea is keep the 10 posts limit but remove members who don't sign in for over a month, but that's a lot more work on my part, both removing and re-accepting members when they re-apply.

yes, anybody who has a credit card or paypal, but seeing as we have so many of us younger folks here, I highly doubt that that plan's gonna work for everyone.

With all respect, I think it's fail to say that assumption hasn't worked out in our favor. We've got people with 750+ posts that have literally just joined what seems like yesterday.

I get what you're saying, but they're not the spamming type I'm on about. I'm on about those who spam their way on the site with useless crap for EVERY post. The people with 750+ and joined recently have made an effort to contribute and get to know everyone. It's all about socialising too remember. Sure not every post can be a contributing post, but even socialising is as good a contributing post as one that talks about betas. However some people just talk complete junk and do end up spamming the site.

I would have to disagree there, because i think to become a VIP there should be a 6month wait and 750+ posts or a 6 month wait and donation. The reason for this being that people have joined the VIP group and they have only been on BA for a month or 2 just because they donated, its not fair and they may not be a good contributer to the fourms. If there was a 6month wait then they would have to earn there way in, not just pay 5 pounds and your in kinda thing. But just to donate to get in to VIP is a load of crap because as an example i will use my self. Im only 16, i have money to donate but i cant, i dont have a credit card, i dont have paypal and my parents wont use there credit cards on the internet (security reasons) that means that i have to make 750+ posts that are not crap to get in. But some people just spam away to get there 750+ posts. With a 6 month wait as i said before they would have to earn there way in. But thats my opinion.

The problem there is we don't want to limit donations. 6 months and a donation isn't fair because then there'd be a period of time where members would be less likely to donate, which is exactly the opposite of what we want.

I do agree that the people mass posting just to get VIP status isn't fair, it took me almost a year to get VIP status, and it took Derf almost two years. I wouldn't mind raising the post count for new admissions to the VIP section.

I'm still not even close, I've been here since almost day one. Not that I'm complaining, but it is slightly irritating to see people with only a few months on the clock with twice as many posts as me, especially if they have VIP access already. Maybe I just post too little, I dunno (avg. ~3 posts a week over 3+ years, but that's more bursts with gaps between them).

That would be the main downside to increasing the VIP post requirement, I can think of almost a dozen members, yourself included, who are more than worthy of VIP status but aren't there because of their lower post count's.

Well people who donate wait 3months for VIP access and people who dont donate wait 6months with 750+posts.

I'm not sure about the waiting period either. I mean, nobody could make 750+ posts in 6 months anyway.

Look at peoples account, some users have done it in 3 or 4 months. But it would be a minimum time limit.

The VIP status is supposed to be an incentive to donate, making people who have donated wait 3 months would be stupid.